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Where can I get old Terms and Conditions details?

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  • Skeletor
    Skeletor Posts: 12 Forumite
    chrissieo wrote: »
    Hi

    I m desperately trying to find a copy of T&Cs for Allaince & Leicester credit card circa 2003 (or there abouts). Can anyone hlep. I Ihave tried using the archieve website but not having much luck.

    Chrissie

    Ask Alliance & Leicester for them.
  • chrissieo
    chrissieo Posts: 56 Forumite
    Skeletor wrote: »
    Ask Alliance & Leicester for them.

    I have already asked A&L (MBNA) for them but they can apparently only supply the current ones which were changed to try and circumnavigate the penalty/charge issue as far as I know.

    Chrissie
    When one door closes, another one always opens, but sometimes it's hell in the hallway:rolleyes:
  • Skeletor
    Skeletor Posts: 12 Forumite
    chrissieo wrote: »
    I have already asked A&L (MBNA) for them but they can apparently only supply the current ones which were changed to try and circumnavigate the penalty/charge issue as far as I know.

    Chrissie

    Do you have this in writing? I'm sure it wouldn't look good in the eyes of the court if they have said they are unable to supply you with them. Furthermore how can they be defending their fees as lawful when the T&Cs under which they were charged are not available? As said earlier in this thread this sounds like a win-win situation for you.
  • LozBingley
    LozBingley Posts: 580 Forumite
    Why not just ask the bank to provide you with a copy of the terms and conditions that you signed that detail that you agreed to the value of the charge!

    I don't ever recall signing any terms and details that quoted how much the charge's were. ;) The wording is more likely to have said that you agree to the charges as published by them, hence the responsibility to provide the information is placed back on them as publishers and owners of the terms, conditions, and rates applied.

    Also why not try asking them to provide technical information as to what headings (field names within the system and screen shots of the charge editing screen) are used on their computer systems for the charges! I swear to it that they were always displayed on screen and referred to as "penalties" when I worked for Barclays, Bradford & Bingley, and Yorkshire Building Society!

    Is there not a standard repository for this charge information? Shouldn't the Financial Ombudsman hold historical data on this?
    Got It & Spent It :dance:
    IKEA CARD = £120 charges = £175 received (146%)
    MARBLES = £450 charges = £370 received (82%)
    I.F. = £494 charges = £494 received (100%)
    CAPITAL ONE = £981 charges = £1,489.03 (152%)
    BARCLAYCARD = £580 charges = £786.12 (136%)
    On Hold :mad:
    A+L = £722 charges (target = 147%)
    BARCLAYS = £1,405 charges (target = 128%)
    BARCLAYS = £175 charges (target = 140%)
    ABBEY = £3,220 charges (target = 148%)
  • leanne22
    leanne22 Posts: 11 Forumite
    hi iam looking for the terms and cons for my acount one for 6 years ago and one for 3 years ago

    can anyone help
  • katscash
    katscash Posts: 42 Forumite
    has any one got a skycard terms and conditions from 2005 please:money:
  • lindilou39
    lindilou39 Posts: 927 Forumite
    LozBingley wrote: »
    Why not just ask the bank to provide you with a copy of the terms and conditions that you signed that detail that you agreed to the value of the charge!

    I don't ever recall signing any terms and details that quoted how much the charge's were. ;) The wording is more likely to have said that you agree to the charges as published by them, hence the responsibility to provide the information is placed back on them as publishers and owners of the terms, conditions, and rates applied.

    Also why not try asking them to provide technical information as to what headings (field names within the system and screen shots of the charge editing screen) are used on their computer systems for the charges! I swear to it that they were always displayed on screen and referred to as "penalties" when I worked for Barclays, Bradford & Bingley, and Yorkshire Building Society!

    Is there not a standard repository for this charge information? Shouldn't the Financial Ombudsman hold historical data on this?
    Good point there Loz because when I opened my account in 1995 with 'then' TSB I think I only ever signed to T&C,s on applictation...Like yourself I dont remember requesting/signing any contract that says that LloydsTsb can exceed my overdraft limit, luckily I have actually got statements where it clearly shows that LTSB charges actually pushed me into unauthorised borrowing.

    Lin
  • alonso
    alonso Posts: 146 Forumite
    Skeletor wrote: »
    Thanks again Kurt. Does this sound like a reasonable request? Obviously I have little legal knowledge.

    XXXX XXXX
    Cobbetts LLP
    Ship Canal House
    King Street
    Manchester
    M2 4WB


    Dear XXXXXX,

    Claim no: XXXXXXX
    Your ref: XXX/XXXXXXX-XXXX

    Account Name: XXXX XXXX
    Account number: XXXXXXXX
    Sort Code: XXXXXX

    I am writing to request that the Defendant, National Westminster Bank Plc, provides all the Terms and Conditions under which the above bank account was subject to between October 2002 and November 2006. This information is necessary to allow the Claimant to identify which clauses were applied in charging the Claimant’s bank account which the Claimant contests as unlawful.


    Yours sincerely


    XXXXXXXXXX


    Has anyone tried this with Abbey with any luck. Abbey have acknowledged and have 28 days to submit their defence. Should I request a copy of the T& cons for the year 2000 (when the acc was open) to start preparing my court bundle/evidence material?
  • alonso
    alonso Posts: 146 Forumite
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  • davidscot
    davidscot Posts: 597 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    I have been fighting for my daughter to reclaim the charges made against her Bank of Scotland account and would like some help please.
    She got her statement of charges and wrote the template letter from here regards her getting them refunded but she has been refused any repayment.
    Part of the banks reply reads and I quote 'When you opened your account, you agreed to our terms and conditions which explained that charges would be applied if you did not keep to the terms of the account'
    Does this mean she is not eligible for repayments as she has not read the small print of her account (who does?) or is this just a standard letter that the banks are sending out to try to stop people pursuing repayments?
    Is it worth following this up with the Financial Ombudsman, any help appreciated thanks.
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