storage heaters/electric central heating or gas?

hamtune

Has anyone tried Kalriel heating? The information on their website is certainly encouraging and if I were replacing storage heaters, they would certainly be on my wish list.
http://www.kalirel.co.uk/

Cardew

hamtune wrote: »

Has anyone tried Kalriel heating? The information on their website is certainly encouraging and if I were replacing storage heaters, they would certainly be on my wish list.
http://www.kalirel.co.uk/

I suspect this is spam; first post promoting a system???

Plenty of posts on this system; you pay a fortune for a system that gives out no more heat for the money than Granny's 1/2/3 bar electric fire.

If you want to have non-storage electric heating on a daytime tariff just buy some £30 oil filled radiators and get EXACTLY the smae heat output for your money.

Loads of systems like Kalirel, with websites that can lead the unspecting into buying something that they think is cheap to run.

Now pushing the environmentally friendly aspects - rubbish!!!

Kimbochelsea

Can someone please help me I am totally bamboozled!

I am soon to move into a 3 bedroomed detatched cottage with storage heating and a coal fire which heats the water. I have never come across storage heating before and have no idea how it works or how to make the most of it? I've always had my heating and water run off the coal fire! The cottage is quite old and has very little or no insulation and has single glazing throughout.

Could someone please advise me on whats the best thing to do? I wondered would it be cheaper to buy plug in heaters and run these instead of the storage heating but I really don't have a clue?

Also what is this E7 everyone seems to be talking about? My partner and I would probably require the heating to be on first thing in the morning for an hour but off all day and on after 5 o clock at night.

Can someone please help me? I would really appreciate some advice from someone who knows what they're talking about!

Thank you!

Oh and on a completely different note, does anyone know what a tennants rights are to basic things like proper insulation and perhaps double glazing and central heating. I believe there is some sort of government grant you can apply for but I think you have to be in the property for a year before you can do so?? If anyone has any thoughts I would love to hear them!

Thanks again!
Look forward to hearing from someone!

Magentasue

Economy 7 is where you pay more for your daytime electricity but for a seven hour period (sometimes a little more) overnight, you have cheap rate electricity. It is, therefore, much cheaper to run your washing machine etc. at night.

More importantly, storage heaters use the cheaper electricity while they are heating up. Because of this, the house is warm overnight. When you get up, you can turn the heaters 'on', in other words, let some of that stored heat out. You could then turn them on when you get home. However ... the heaters will be slowly losing heat all day even if off, so they may be cold later on in the evening.

Storage heaters are horrendously expensive to run so you need E7 if you are using them. If you have an immersion heater, you can also heat this in the cheap period.

Is the fire a Parkray type? We had one of these years ago. Like a coal fire with a glass door? Ours ran a couple of radiators but not the hot water. Basically, you kept the fire going and it effectively heated one room and poorly heated the radiators. I've known other people's to be more efficient. I remember using A LOT of coal!

Don't know about the tenants' rights one but there are a lot of landlords and others who might know on the House Buying, Renting and Selling board.

russian

I found 2 type of electric radiator system - kalirel and suko, one French, the other German, I think. One has gel inside but I haven't decided yet so don't know what they are like. The other is a combination of stored heat in stones inside rad and instant heat. Both are prettier and sound much more user friendly than storage heaters & can be used with economy 10. Has anyone had these. They are also cheaper to install and so cost less than gas to fit.

Cardew

russian wrote: »

I found 2 type of electric radiator system - kalirel and suko, one French, the other German, I think. One has gel inside but I haven't decided yet so don't know what they are like. The other is a combination of stored heat in stones inside rad and instant heat. Both are prettier and sound much more user friendly than storage heaters & can be used with economy 10. Has anyone had these. They are also cheaper to install and so cost less than gas to fit.

Any heater can be used with Economy 10 or Economy 7!! It is just electricity.

Why not get some £20 to £30 oil filled radiators as they give EXACTLY the same heat for the money, and cost a fraction of these 'systems'.

amtrakuk

evening Cardew...

But what benefit would an oil filled rad do overnight, by morning it would be cold? Surely you would need some storage capabilities or is there an element of sarcasm there?

Here-here for convection heaters! NOT on economy 7

Cardew

amtrakuk wrote: »

evening Cardew...

But what benefit would an oil filled rad do overnight, by morning it would be cold? Surely you would need some storage capabilities or is there an element of sarcasm there?

Here-here for convection heaters! NOT on economy 7

evening armatrak...

No, there was no sarcasm.

The 2 systems mentioned are not any form of storage heating. Their cleverly worded adverts, with mention of working on Economy 10, are simply radiators filled with a gel/clay/what have you!! The implication is they have some form of storage capacity.

They plug into a normal 13 amp socket and give out exactly the same heat for your money as £20 oil filled radiators. Except a 'system' for a house will cost £thousands.

As you say, the oil filled radiators will be cold soon after the power is switched off, but so will the radiators in question.

All I am saying is if you decide to use electric heating, look at storage heating and work out if the economics are viable, or go for a 24/7 tariff using simple oil filled rads or fan(convector) heaters.

Why pay £thousands to get the same heat as £20 heaters?

amtrakuk

Hey there Cardew.


Yeah in agreement with you there. I must have misunderstood the previous message. I was under the impression of using a standard oil filled radiator on economy7 as the main heating. I thought there is little point in using a £20 oil filled rad instead of a storage heater as the house would be hot during the off peak period, the house would cool down by mid afternoon.

I think E10 offers 2 off-peak periods so perhaps an oil filled rad may be a viable option as it will heat the house in the afternoon as well.

amtrakuk

Hey there Cardew.


Yeah in agreement with you there. I must have misunderstood the previous message. I was under the impression of using a standard oil filled radiator on economy7 as the main heating. I thought there is little point in using a £20 oil filled rad instead of a storage heater as the house would be hot during the off peak period, the house would cool down by mid afternoon.

I think E10 offers 2 off-peak periods so perhaps an oil filled rad may be a viable option as it will heat the house in the afternoon as well.