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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    It's funny how people think of strikes like the match girls (undeniably a group that needed to stop working in those conditions) .

    You say that but their bosses didn't think that, neither did the govt, you know free trade and all that, come to think of it how long did it take to ban asbestos much more recently icon9.gif
    Although phosphorous was banned in Sweden and the USA, the British government had refused to follow their example, arguing that it would be a restraint of free trade.
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/TUmatchgirls.htm
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Jennifer_Jane
    Jennifer_Jane Posts: 3,237 Forumite
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    Think of the boost to the economy with all those digital downloads.

    Andrew Lloyd-Webber holds the rights, I think, so he's just got much richer without doing very much at all.
    I don't agree with that at all.

    Unions were established in the teeth of the fiercest of opposition, and did a great deal to improve (necessarily) health and safety, working conditions, exploitation, pay and help fight individual cases.

    The fact that they got over-mighty in the 1970s doesn't mean they've never done any good.

    Unions are still doing good work: the on-site union rep helped me quite a bit on a one-to-one level when I was having some problems at work, and just needed someone to talk to who knew the Company and the Law.

    In addition, my partner has, over the last couple of years, been bullied at work. They have no union, but I encouraged him to join one privately. When the inevitable happened and he was unfairly brought before a disciplinary, a union rep attended and made mincemeat of the bullying manager. Now they know that he's not the soft touch they once thought, and things have improved considerably. Lord knows what he would have done, had the union not helped him.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Tube drivers are threatening strikes again.
  • Jennifer_Jane
    Jennifer_Jane Posts: 3,237 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Tube drivers are threatening strikes again.

    Oh good grief: pay and conditions? Someone been fired? That would have brought them all out in the 60's.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Oh good grief: pay and conditions? Someone been fired? That would have brought them all out in the 60's.
    Think this is something to do with a new canteen!!
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    Oh good grief: pay and conditions? Someone been fired? That would have brought them all out in the 60's.
    Cant wait for an automated underground service. Then all those greedy tube drivers can get the thatcher treatment.
  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    In my humble opinion the London Tube drivers have little to complain about.

    If a Ryanair pilot would like to post his rota and pay along side that to a tube driver, I'm sure we would all have some facts to discuss.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22150434

    Does that Crowe bloke think he will inherit the Scargill crown?
  • ash28
    ash28 Posts: 1,789 Forumite
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    In my humble opinion the London Tube drivers have little to complain about.

    If a Ryanair pilot would like to post his rota and pay along side that to a tube driver, I'm sure we would all have some facts to discuss.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22150434

    Does that Crowe bloke think he will inherit the Scargill crown?

    I'm not in favour of tube drivers striking but how about comparing them to a British Airways pilot and not Ryanair (a foreign company) - who treat their staff pretty much like they do their passengers....

    Ryanair pilots have set up an organisation called Ryanair Pilot Group...to represent the pilots of Ryanair regardless of the contract type they have with Ryanair. Ryanair don't recognise unions.

    Over 70% of Ryanair pilots are not direct employees.

    Most commercial pilots in the UK belong to Balpa or Ialpa and are very well represented.
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    ash28 wrote: »
    I'm not in favour of tube drivers striking but how about comparing them to a British Airways pilot and not Ryanair (a foreign company) - who treat their staff pretty much like they do their passengers....

    Ryanair pilots have set up an organisation called Ryanair Pilot Group...to represent the pilots of Ryanair regardless of the contract type they have with Ryanair. Ryanair don't recognise unions.

    Over 70% of Ryanair pilots are not direct employees.

    Most commercial pilots in the UK belong to Balpa or Ialpa and are very well represented.
    Most pilots don't work for BA... It's also worth pointing out, last BA strike, off duty pilots came in to do the cabin crew role to keep the aircraft flying.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    Most pilots don't work for BA... It's also worth pointing out, last BA strike, off duty pilots came in to do the cabin crew role to keep the aircraft flying.

    Think Graham D posted something recently about one of the budget carriers employing "adhoc/zero hours" pilots on ~ £40 p/hr.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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