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Baroness Thatcher passed away
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If this is the case, why do we have such a large immigrant workforce, working in low paid service sector work such as agriculture and healthcare?
There is the work, people need a bit more stick and a lot less carrot to entice them to work.
Because they are willing to pack a rucksack, live on floors in high multiple occupancy dwelling and caravans, to escape poverty in their own country.
They don't come with attendant "baggage" of life. They have nothing to lose.
Why are you off to UAE? To earn more money, pay less tax, to achieve monetary embellishment. You are just 50 rungs up the ladder doing the same thing. I hope you find what you are looking for. Enjoy brunch."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Because they are willing to pack a rucksack, live on floors in high multiple occupancy dwelling and caravans, to escape poverty in their own country.
They don't come with attendant "baggage" of life. They have nothing to lose.
Why are you off to UAE? To earn more money, pay less tax, to achieve monetary embellishment. You are just 50 rungs up the ladder doing the same thing. I hope you find what you are looking for. Enjoy brunch.
Ha ha! Not off to the UAE now, will be of no fixed abode, but will be passing through there now and then.
My point I believe still remains, whilst work exists in the uk, all parties should be willing to make the effort, make sacrifices and move if necessary rather than rely on state handouts. This could include packing a backpack, living in a caravan and moving to another part of the country, even temporarily, to make ends meet. If benefits weren't as lucrative, this would be the only option and productivity would climb as a result.0 -
Jennifer_Jane wrote: »Yes, I agree with you. She's been out of power for 23 years, plenty of time for her "legacy" if any to be changed.
With what?
She halted the decline of Britain for a time, she didn't reverse it in the long term.
One of the ways she did that was sell off the silver. Selling of utilities, energy, water to many investors that were foreign government backed. Those utilities have been allowed to deteriorate and we as a nation are once again going to have to pay to make them fit for the future.
Giving away the housing stock at undervalue. Enticing people into debt to acquired them, releasing cash into the economy to be frittered away more than once.
If you sold your house tomorrow, spent the money, how would you buy it back?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
From the bbc:
Would it not make more sense then just to change the criteria for what gets a lifetime award rather than wasting money on testing people who aren't ever going to get better ?
If you've got Downs syndrome, or any other life-long genetic disease, whats the bloody point of assessing you every few years, you aren't going to get better (ever) so it's just more badly thought out and wasteful legislation from a government that seems to be staffed entirely by people with all the intelligence of a wet fish.
As for Thatcher, can't say i'm bothered either way, don't agree with her politics at all, shes been a major contributory factor in creating a country with a wealth gap that is bigger than the US with non of the charitable ethics of the US, a country that relies heavily on one industry for almost everything, a country that has to charge a stupidly low amount of corporation tax just to keep business here. She took a lot of incredibly short sighted decisions with absolutely no thought of the long term effects of her decisions.
Yet i still have more respect for her than anything we have had since, as although i believe she was the embodyment of selfishness and greed, she at least had some principles, which is one hell of a lot more than can be said for today's politicians.0 -
Ha ha! Not off to the UAE now, will be of no fixed abode, but will be passing through there now and then.
My point I believe still remains, whilst work exists in the uk, all parties should be willing to make the effort, make sacrifices and move if necessary rather than rely on state handouts. This could include packing a backpack, living in a caravan and moving to another part of the country, even temporarily, to make ends meet. If benefits weren't as lucrative, this would be the only option and productivity would climb as a result.
Moving for a six figure salary is a different choice to moving for a sub NMW job when you may have a family, kids in education to provide for.
AIUI the majority of benefit recipients are in fact working.
How come you aren't moving?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Ha ha! Not off to the UAE now, but will be passing through there now and then.
My point I believe still remains, whilst work exists in the uk, all parties should be willing to make the effort, make sacrifices and move if necessary rather than rely on state handouts. This could include packing a backpack, living in a caravan and moving to another part of the country, even temporarily, to make ends meet. If benefits weren't as lucrative, this would be the only option and productivity would climb as a result.
Im sorry but you are talking out you're backside.
What you suddenly expect people would move around the country like gypsies in search of work on a farm picking runner beans? :rotfl:
Why do you think these rich boys employ immigrants to do these types of jobs for a couple of ££ per hour? Only so they can make themselves for richer.
Why do you think these building companies employed so many Polish workers? Because it is cheaper to employ people from outside the UK over British workers.
But getting back to moving around the country. Not that easy when people have kids that go to school etc0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Moving for a six figure salary is a different choice to moving for a sub NMW job when you may have a family, kids in education to provide for.
AIUI the majority of benefit recipients are in fact working.
How come you aren't moving?
They should have worked harder at school and not dossed at the back of the class. Or, having dossed, done something about it, instead of getting their misses up the duff. Then chose to keep it without any future financial plan of How to bring said sprog up (other than state support). We all cut our own cloth, not the state as some here believe.
I am moving, but a more altruistic job came up, less well paid, but better opportunities as a family with most of the perks. The UAE is great, but having already done a lot of that, want to travel a bit more widely. As most of the work is desk based, it doesn't really mention where I work from. We will pick a Base after travelling a bit.0 -
Is the funeral being paid for out of the estate?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Murphy_Gooner wrote: »Im sorry but you are talking out you're backside.
What you suddenly expect people would move around the country like gypsies in search of work on a farm picking runner beans? :rotfl:
Why do you think these rich boys employ immigrants to do these types of jobs for a couple of ££ per hour? Only so they can make themselves for richer.
Why do you think these building companies employed so many Polish workers? Because it is cheaper to employ people from outside the UK over British workers.
But getting back to moving around the country. Not that easy when people have kids that go to school etc
That's not the employers problem, its the fault of socialists who enforced a national minimum wage. And having spoken to a fair few polish workers working agri locally at the pub, I can assure you if you work hard, it is still lucrative.
If they couldn't afford them, they should have practiced birth control or got rid when they got pregnant. A perfect example of why cb needs capping. If you can't afford, don't have.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Is the funeral being paid for out of the estate?
It would be ironic if the gravediggers went on strike now as they did in the "winter of discontent"0
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