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Baroness Thatcher passed away

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  • no_debt
    no_debt Posts: 20 Forumite
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    what cammron says loss of a great leader, i worked in the thatcher years no problem goodbye to our greetist leader
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Stop using a strawman argument in an attempt to glorify unnecessary war and Thatchers' part in it.


    No straw man about your support for the Generals and sick belittling of the disappeared, by comparing this with the gallant scots fighting the poll tax.
  • StevieJ wrote: »
    That is not the first time they have had the Strawman jibe aimed at them today, maybe he/she should change their name to Crowman ;)


    Please expand on what you are trying to say.
  • MacMickster
    MacMickster Posts: 3,646 Forumite
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    Winston Churchill.

    You really should never liken Margaret Thatcher to Winston Churchill.

    Whereas Churchill united a nation Thatcher divided it. I would much more liken Thatcher to Blair, and I won't mourn the passing of either.
    "When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
  • Tancred
    Tancred Posts: 1,424 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Nevertherless you are happy for those fascists to invade the Falklands without any condemnation; in an somewhat sick juxtaposition with the poll tax.

    Maybe contemplate that many Argentinians were saved from murder as a result of Britian defeating the fascist Generals.

    Before 1982 nobody gave a flying **** about the Falklands - certainly not Thatcher and her acolytes. Then, all of a sudden, Thatcher was presented with an opportunity to become Elizabeth I - and she took it. It was a gift from Heaven to her. If the Argies had bothered to station 10,000 professional soldiers instead of clueless conscripts on the islands, and backed them up with their entire air force, we would have been screwed and Thatcher turfed out of office.
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    No straw man about your support for the Generals and sick belittling of the disappeared, by comparing this with the gallant scots fighting the poll tax.

    You are getting more desperate by the comment.

    Thatchers' war never helped the disappeared. They had already disappeared. More would have disappeared no doubt. Vietnam war-City of Hue Tet offensive 1968 "we had to destroy the city to save it"-american colonel.

    To suggest I support the generals really doesn't fit the tone of my comments.
  • Tancred
    Tancred Posts: 1,424 Forumite
    You really should never liken Margaret Thatcher to Winston Churchill.

    Whereas Churchill united a nation Thatcher divided it. I would much more liken Thatcher to Blair, and I won't mourn the passing of either.

    I don't have much time for Churchill either - a hugely overestimated PM. He lost Britain her empire as the price for American intervention, and continued burning civilians with area bombing even when the war was practically over.

    And he didn't unite the nation for long - Labour won a landslide in 1945.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    How does that justify the Generals' invasion?

    We should have marched into the Ruhr at the right time too.

    Put forces in Kuwait before the Iraqi invasion


    But we were where we were; so the action was appropriate.

    I never said it did justify their invasion. If she had heeded the warnings and done something about it they wouldn't have invaded.

    Germany and Kuwait weren't our territory, not convinced the Falklands are either in reality, but we claim them.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • holidaysforme
    holidaysforme Posts: 1,786 Forumite
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    'and when they finally put you in the ground. I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down'

    Elvis costello wtote this classic. I believe he wrote it about thatcher.

    Always like this song. Seems very appropriate today:D
  • At the time of the Falklands I remember arguing with my late raf ww2 pilot father. I was bellicose in favour of it-a veteran like him adamently opposed to it on grounds of potential loss of human life not being worth dirt and it was nothing to do with Thatcher. When did the tank turret ride with the scarf on happen-I can't remember.

    He was right and I was wrong.
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