JSA - JobCentre: own email report to myself as proof in case of issue with my adviser

MoonDragon

csmw wrote: »

This old chestnut again.... As a current advisor I have no targets, aspirations or anything of the sort to refer to a decision maker. People really will believe whatever is written in the papers won't they.

I have a question :

I have been requested for another appointment yesterday (while I use to sign on tuesday) : the main discussion of my adviser was about my PRIVATE LIFE and at the end he made me signed a document for an appointment in a month with an organization that he claim to "be very efficient with executives" like me and that he had "very good feedback from other executives that were his 'client'". In front of me he (pretended to) called this organization for the appointment and asked me if he can give them my phone number and email address : instantaneously I had said (i was trying to give a secondary email address by the adviser insisted). However, after I have left the JobCentre I remember that previously this kind of organization have several times breached my rights according to the Data Protection Act. As a result, I have sent yesterday evening an email to my adviser asking to request from this new organization to remove my all my datas (phone number and email address inclusive) if they have been provided to them and that this organization should contact me only through JobCentre.

I have found suspicious this organization that provide the traning, since their address contain "Mental Health Foundation" : Is it possible that your service is trying to mislead by sending me to mental health organization and letter turn this against me? Do I have the right to cancel this appointment if I do not have enough information about this organization and the service that will be provided to me?

MoonDragon

csmw wrote: »

Yeah, that was me

I do not know if you are serious or not...but I really do not mind...

MoonDragon

Funky_Bold_Ribena wrote: »

No - it really isn't.

Keep living in your virtual and biased world so...

MoonDragon

blckbrd wrote: »

Afraid I have no comment on your situation but I'm curious - do your fingers have a stammer? Why are you writing 'black' like that?

I am just imitating most people in the workspace when they say "black"...

notanewuser

If I were you I'd take any help offered. You obviously do have some mental health issues which your current approach isn't helping.

InA

Honeypie wrote: »

With regards to your first point, how do we distinguish between those that are 'genuine' and those that are not?

Isn't it the case that the small minority who are abusing the system (staying on benefits as a lifestyle choice; not "genuine" claimants) are the same people who know precisely how to work the system and avoid falling foul of it?

After all they have become experts in the field of claiming benefits and have a vested interest in sticking to all the rules to ensure they keep getting their payout. You could say that claiming benefits is their "job".

It seems to me that the rules and sanctions etc. are more likely to trip up people who are new to benefits system, having just lost their job, in other words, most probably a "genuine" claimant. I also think that those "genuine" claimants (who desperately want to get back to work) are more likely to succumb to depression if they end up being out of work for a long time; which could affect their self-esteem and motivation in the long-term.

Taking these factors into account, I do think something needs to change with respect to helping people back to work. The system should be supportive and offer useful help to those looking for work; not a box ticking exercise (where everyone is getting by doing the bare minimum). The job centre should be working WITH genuine jobseekers, not against them; or otherwise making them feel as though they are only looking for opportunities to trip them up. It's a simple question - do people perform better when they feel supported or when they feel that people are working against them? I think I know which one would be more productive.

Also, I don't generally agree that Job Centre / Welfare advisers can't tell who is / isn't a "genuine" claimant. I know someone who used to work in such a job and she told me that she could easily spot the "wasters", however, DWP does not allow its workers to use their judgement, they simply follow the rules as they are laid out. IMHO, that is more likely to work to the detriment of genuine claimants (who could be new to the system and might not be au fait with the rules) rather than the "lifestyle claimants" they are trying to catch out.

MoonDragon

notanewuser wrote: »

If I were you I'd take any help offered. You obviously do have some mental health issues which your current approach isn't helping.

Severe chronic headache (mainly due to stress) is not recognized as a mental health....Also it should not just when it is in the interest of JobCentre or any dishonest/wicked people that it should be mentioned.

I went to King's College hospital two weeks ago (after waiting for three months), and the doctors I have met just said: 'a lot of people have chronic headache like you and they live with it' and your are not really sick!!!

So, please if you have not any intelligent thing to say in this thread just disregard it...I have really a lot of important things to do....

PS : Please note that 80% of my present stress is caused by jobcentre harassment and maladministration. A common sens (for honest people) will be enough to know that I have not done a master degree in computer science in goal to sign on for 71 pounds per week.

notanewuser

MoonDragon wrote: »

Severe chronic headache (mainly due to stress) is not recognized as a mental health....Also it should not just when it is in the interest of JobCentre or any dishonest/wicked people that it should be mentioned.

I went to King's College hospital two weeks ago (after waiting for three months), and the doctors I have met just said: 'a lot of people have chronic headache like you and they live with it' and your are not really sick!!!

So, please if you have not any intelligent thing to say in this thread just disregard it...I have really a lot of important things to do....

PS : Please note that 80% of my present stress is caused by jobcentre harassment and maladministration. A common sens (for honest people) will be enough to know that I have not done a master degree in computer science in goal to sign on for 71 pounds per week.

I wasn't referring to your headaches. Your outlook and approach to your life are not, from what and the way you post here, "normal".

My husband has a BSc in computer science and no masters, has never been out of work and has earned on average £2k a week for about 8 years - not in London. So there must be something different between you.

Gingernutty

You'll be pleased to know MoonDragon has started another thread about the "special training".

*rolls eyes*

scooby088

OP you have been offered advice and you continue not to take it, to continually find fault where there is none is simply doing yourself no good interviews and conversations are two ways, it maybe that you don't want any of the pleasantries that go with going to the jobcentre to sign on.

I have experienced signing on I currently sign on for NI contributions and even though I get no benefit from the government I still have to jump through those hoops the government put in front of me, and if that means being nice and not a know it all with regards to my rights then so be it. You on the other hand are fighting a unwinable battle and will more than likely end up sanctioned.