daughter being made to go to work and give up degree

peculiarpetulia

no she hasnt been claiming falsely at all, its not 2 full days so the hours do not make up to the amount allowed before not being able to claim. She also had to take a slip confirming times/days attended from the college to the job centre so stop assuming.

UsetheFORCE

peculiarpetulia wrote: »

she might not have actually had a full time job but she has had the odd part time jobs over the years but, unfortunately, the shops have fallen to the recession and closed down. She then used her spare time to do voluntary work, which in my mind is contributing and not being paid for it. She has tried to get another part time job but nothing is available so, rather than just sitting on her butt she is working damn hard in a voluntary capacity instead. Myself and the wife (her parents) have worked all our lives as have our own parents, so, she does come from a family that have contributed.

If she wanted to do admin work like the job centre are making her she wouldve gone down that route instead of the art route, but, her talents lay with art, she has a talent which would be shameful to waste. We all have our strengths so why should we ignore them.

If everyone thought about not bothering to be educated and just go straight to work there would be no professionals about. Our son works in the medical field and also did uni to reach his target but, luckily for him he was allowed to then carry on learning on the job. He self-funded by having a job at the time too rather than use student finance, but, only because hed already got the job and was given the opportunity.

And my daughter is no way spoilt, she is the kindest, genuine person ever who would go out of her way to help anyone - i just dont like how this world is treating her. Ok, we may have mollycoddled her a bit but, thats what you do with your kids if you love them. She couldve been saddled with a couple of kids by now but she has made the decision not to and wouldnt be so selfish as to bring kids into the world she knows she doesnt want and cant keep.

Very good post, I have no problem studying while claiming JSA, I do it myself!

...but then the government used the inequitable laws it created to almost make me homeless forcing me to HAVE to claim JSA/HB in order to survive.. I used to work 90+ hours most weeks.

I have little sympathy for the taxpayer at large, I have paid taxes too and I will continue to study at the expense of the taxpayer and NOT saddle myself with debts.

Good luck to your daughter, my family support what I do, they have all paid their taxes and so did I when I was working 90+ plus.

Regards

UsetheFORCE

jimmywx11 wrote: »

It is a bit much for people who were heavily indoctrinated by the government school system.

You go watch TV and let those who can, debate.


Why is tax not voluntary?

if we liked our society we would happily pay into a system that treated everyone fairly.

instead they use threats and force and stealth to steal everyones hard earned fruits of labor.

also...

Why don't we (The UK) control the issuance of our own currency? privately owned banks control our money supply. why is that?

people should research about ICELAND. they have told these privately owned banks to stuff their debts, and as a result are now thriving!!

we need to do the same. georgie ozzy could do it with 1 signature. but he is OWNED by the banks.

More people need to realize this.

Hey hey, pack it in. Some people are so blinkered that they don't understand that MONEY IS DEBT, I prefer my gold and silver to the FIAT currency we have!

PMSL

scooby088

My parents, grandparents have paid tax which has gone to run the country in their time, there seems to be a belief that tax and NI we pay are saved into an account for when we are older or become unemployed.

People currently paying income tax and NI are paying for the benefits of those who currently enjoy not having to work.

dizzyrascal

peculiarpetulia wrote: »

no she hasnt been claiming falsely at all, its not 2 full days so the hours do not make up to the amount allowed before not being able to claim. She also had to take a slip confirming times/days attended from the college to the job centre so stop assuming.

I think that there has been a massive misunderstanding here.
If she is doing an undergrad degree over three years then she IS a full time student. Just because she only has 2 days of taught lessons when she has to be in university does not make the degree part time.
The remainder of the time is meant to be spent on independent study.
You cannot achieve an undergrad degree in less than 3 years (with a couple of exceptions)
Sorry, but she has been claiming fraudulently!!
You cannot claim JSA as a full time student. FULL STOP

peculiarpetulia

NO FULL STOP about it - she HAS NOT been claiming fraudelantly. You need to get your facts right because you have them WRONG here. As said before, she confirmed the days/times of attendance in writing from the college to the job centre - if there was a problem they wouldve stopped her from claiming. IT IS NOT a full time course.

dizzyrascal

peculiarpetulia wrote: »

NO FULL STOP about it - she HAS NOT been claiming fraudelantly. You need to get your facts right because you have them WRONG here. As said before, she confirmed the days/times of attendance in writing from the college to the job centre - if there was a problem they wouldve stopped her from claiming. IT IS NOT a full time course.

Is she studying the degree over 3/4 years or 6 years?
If it is 3/4 she is a full time student

jimmywx11

UsetheFORCE wrote: »

Hey hey, pack it in. Some people are so blinkered that they don't understand that MONEY IS DEBT, I prefer my gold and silver to the FIAT currency we have!

PMSL

well said!

as this is a money saving site. Martin should come out and actually teach people what money really is.

Until people learn that basic knowledge, they have no chance.

The tables rigged guys, its a big club. and we're not in it!!

(Martin is though)

MissSarah151

dizzyrascal wrote: »

I think that there has been a massive misunderstanding here.
If she is doing an undergrad degree over three years then she IS a full time student. Just because she only has 2 days of taught lessons when she has to be in university does not make the degree part time.
The remainder of the time is meant to be spent on independent study.
You cannot achieve an undergrad degree in less than 3 years (with a couple of exceptions)
Sorry, but she has been claiming fraudulently!!
You cannot claim JSA as a full time student. FULL STOP

Yeah, you are right - a full time undergrad is full time regardless of contact hours.

OP - is it a 3 year university course - or is she planning on doing 3 years at college to get the degree - reason I ask is college years aren't considered as continuous education like university - so for example is she doing her HNC this year at college - and this course is considered part time due to the hours therefore she is able to sign on?

Thomas_Hardy

jimmywx11 wrote: »

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