daughter being made to go to work and give up degree

Jox

peculiarpetulia wrote: »

and the jsa isnt pocket money, its saved up in her account and used to pay for her degree - why shouldnt she use it that way?

Taxpayers money being used to fund a degree, that is an abuse of the system.

dizzyrascal

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Nearly every time a person comes on here asking for advise they end up getting accused of some type of benefit fraud.Its absolutely ridiculous.

Don't be ridiculous!
It seems from the facts supplied by the OP that JSA is being claimed when it shouldn't be.
It is more likely to be a misunderstanding than a deliberate fraud but it doesn't mean we can't try to help.

soontobemrsg

UsetheFORCE wrote: »

On that we agree, after all the JSA are only interested in whether the educational establishment consider the course to be Part time or Full time. 120 credits a year is considered FULL TIME.

Agreed. As I understand it you are only considered a PT student if you are are studying up to and including a level 3 qualification.

Regardless of whether or not we agree on this being a full or part time course the fact OP's daughter has claimed JSA means that she has to make herself available for full-time work and will be expected to be willing to give up the course if suitable full-time work becomes available.

Elzmumof3

JSA is what it is - Job Seekers Allowance - you have to follow the guidelines the DWP put, or you won't get it! you have to apply for a certain number of jobs a week, do a certain number of other things, and sign on fortnightly, and thats it.

OP - I feel you lump everyone on JSA in the same catagory (except your daughter of course) as drinking, drug taking, ignoramouses, when in actual fact, most of us are only claiming as we have no other choice - I wish that i could get any job, but thats not happening right now, and i am not lucky enough to have mummy and daddy to pay my way.

jimmywx11

6 million unemployed - 400,000 jobs.
why are they treating the weakest in society so badly?
Think people!!

over the last decade the government has put no new policy in place to create any new jobs...... why??

think people!!!

Affynity

Elzmumof3 wrote: »

JSA is what it is - Job Seekers Allowance - you have to follow the guidelines the DWP put, or you won't get it! you have to apply for a certain number of jobs a week, do a certain number of other things, and sign on fortnightly, and thats it.

OP - I feel you lump everyone on JSA in the same catagory (except your daughter of course) as drinking, drug taking, ignoramouses, when in actual fact, most of us are only claiming as we have no other choice - I wish that i could get any job, but thats not happening right now, and i am not lucky enough to have mummy and daddy to pay my way.

EXACTLY. Her daughter will have a JSag detailing exactly what conditions she has to demonstrate to get her JSA.
I repeat, and can't mention it strongly enough, that she is lucky not to have been placed on workfare. Graduates in better degrees have not been so lucky!

Honeypie

The comments that state JCP wouldn't let her claim if it wasnt allowed are rubbish. I used to work for JCP. Often the claimant is taken at their word. "I'm studying part time. I only attend 2 days a week." Then JCP asked for evidence - as the OP's daughter did, which would've shown the 2 days. JCP add that to the file and process. That simple. One of the reasons there are so many fraudulent claims.

UsetheFORCE

Jox wrote: »

Taxpayers money being used to fund a degree, that is an abuse of the system.

Okay, we can expand this viewpoint and/or take it back in time.

Has everyone had to pay for their degree throughout time?

Abuse of the system, there are so many that the government allows it to happen that quite frankly even if it is, I don't look down on it too much!!!

UsetheFORCE

soontobemrsg wrote: »

Agreed. As I understand it you are only considered a PT student if you are are studying up to and including a level 3 qualification.

Regardless of whether or not we agree on this being a full or part time course the fact OP's daughter has claimed JSA means that she has to make herself available for full-time work and will be expected to be willing to give up the course if suitable full-time work becomes available.

Actually that isn't the case, you could study 60 credits a year and make up a degree over say 6 years. Year on year it would be part time....

soontobemrsg

UsetheFORCE wrote: »

Actually that isn't the case, you could study 60 credits a year and make up a degree over say 6 years. Year on year it would be part time....

Yes, I should have been clearer. I meant in terms of financial assistance, otherwise you would be expected to be funded by student loans and grants which are all taken into account for means tested benefits

ETA: Even if you don't accept the loans, grants I understand that means tested benefits are calculated on the basis you have. And OP has stated that this is a BA at 3 years.