daughter being made to go to work and give up degree

MissSarah151

jimmywx11 wrote: »

I know why your being so horrid to the OP... you want them to lose it so you can get them banned.

if its less than 16 hours per week is part time. the jobcentre would never allow it otherwise.

now apologize to the OP.

no - not when it comes to university degrees. Rather than insult the OP they are trying to ensure she doesn't end up being arrested for benefit fraud!

Thomas_Hardy

jimmywx11 wrote: »

I know why your being so horrid to the OP... you want them to lose it so you can get them banned.

if its less than 16 hours per week is part time. the jobcentre would never allow it otherwise.

now apologize to the OP.

It's a phrase I detest, but I actually lolled at this :rotfl:

UsetheFORCE

jimmywx11 wrote: »

I know why your being so horrid to the OP... you want them to lose it so you can get them banned.

if its less than 16 hours per week is part time. the jobcentre would never allow it otherwise.

now apologize to the OP.

My degree is part time and I am DEFINITELY allowed to claim....anyway, too many people know too much!!!

I don't fancy getting a law degree and a criminal record to boot!

Some people just can't grasp things as they have been brought up being fed drivel, a bit like religion until you, as someone said, reach the age of reason!

jimmywx11

Dunroamin wrote: »

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no you may not.
if you have to resort to that kind of insult then its obvious that i'm in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Dunroamin

jimmywx11 wrote: »

I know why your being so horrid to the OP... you want them to lose it so you can get them banned.

if its less than 16 hours per week is part time. the jobcentre would never allow it otherwise.

now apologize to the OP.

Neither I nor anyone else is being "horrid" to the OP, we are just pointing out the facts of her daughter's situation. If she is on a designated full time HE course then she's ineligible for benefits, regardless of the number of hours she attends.

Given your obvious cynicism of "the system", your commment above is frankly ludicrous.

Affynity

Thomas_Hardy wrote: »

No insult, just an observation - you've got to be on something to come up with that drivel!

New age medicine is very much a "believe me it works" approach, over a "here look at this peer-reviewed evidence" type of approach.

The comments in this thread have been verging on ridiculous.
This girl claims JSA and is being asked to take paid work. That's the nature of JSA.
Some of the support here, amidst the pseudo-liberal weirdness, are acting like this girl is Cait Reilly, bravely fighting workfare.

People aren't saying the government are right in how they regulate these schemes, they are merely saying that is what the regulations are. And yes, an undergraduate degree has hours that are beyond the contact time.
You will also find that an institution actively suggests not to undertake employment when studying full-time because they expect ALL free time to be spent on studying. Part-time degrees are not designed to be taken by the unemployed because the conditionality for benefits is full availability for work. They are designed for people who have commitments that can be flexible to accommodate study.

Dunroamin

UsetheFORCE wrote: »

My degree is part time and I am DEFINITELY allowed to claim....anyway, too many people know too much!!!

If your course is part time then you are allowed to claim as long as your course doesn't stop your job search, you remain available for work and can be put on any work programmes. Unfortunately, it sounds to many of us that the OP's daughter is actually on a full time course, which is a completely different situation.

More information on the specific course would sort out the problem immediately.

dandelionclock30

Nearly every time a person comes on here asking for advise they end up getting accused of some type of benefit fraud.Its absolutely ridiculous.

UsetheFORCE

Dunroamin wrote: »

If your course is part time then you are allowed to claim as long as your course doesn't stop your job search, you remain available for work and can be put on any work programmes. Unfortunately, it sounds to many of us that the OP's daughter is actually on a full time course, which is a completely different situation.

More information on the specific course would sort out the problem immediately.

On that we agree, after all the JSA are only interested in whether the educational establishment consider the course to be Part time or Full time. 120 credits a year is considered FULL TIME.

liney

UsetheFORCE wrote: »

On that we agree, after all the JSA are only interested in whether the educational establishment consider the course to be Part time or Full time. 120 credits a year is considered FULL TIME.

Absolutely. When I was at Uni I was only in lectures for about 8 hours per week as it was a humanities course. It involved huge amounts of reading, so I was expected to be 'studying privately' for another 32 hours to gain my 120 credits per year.

I imagine that an art degree is much the same, and someone has make a mistake somewhere along the line. If it is a full time BA, over 3 years, the contact hours are irrelavent.