Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

neverdespairgirl

misskool wrote: »

I'm starting to detest management-speak

That just shows you need to step up to the plate, think outside the box and do some forward planning, going forward.

Legal circles don't do much of that sort of language, but there is an obsession with cricket-speak. In one day in my 3 month trial earlier this year, we discussed the "batting order for defence witnesses", to be "completed by close of play", and then "drew stumps early" when fate "bowled a googly" by cancelling the trains on which our afternoon witness was supposed to be brought to us.

neverdespairgirl

misskool wrote: »

excellent organisational skills, ability to manage workload and work under pressure, an open and positive attitude

I do my best to cope with my rubbish organisational skills, can manage my workload, work best under serious pressure, have a positive attitude, but am entirely non-open about it.

neverdespairgirl

silvercar wrote: »

By the time you go as far back as 1820, we are in Russia or Poland, which makes the search more difficult. (Either the part of then Russia that is now Poland or vice versa, I can never remember which way round).

Pretty sure the part of Poland that's now Ukraine? Like Lvov, for example?

OH, his parents and grandparents, the 7 of them, were born in 7 different countries, including 3 which no longer exist (Austro-Hungarian Empire, Tsarist Russia, and British Mandate of Palestine).

Isaac ruined it by being born in the UK, same as OH's father.

My ancestors, OTOH, as far as can be traced were born in England, Wales, and what's now Northern Ireland, but was at the time just Ireland.

PasturesNew wrote: »

That's up one line, every marriage produces a new line.
If I go back to 1820 I've:
2 parents
4 grandparents
8-g-grandparents
16 g-g-grandparents
32 g-g-g-grandparents.
64 g-g-g-g-grandparents

Only if there's no inter-marriage at all, through all those generations, though?

neverdespairgirl

LydiaJ wrote: »

I am so glad I'm in education, and the private sector at that. Unless you're applying to be a head or something, you get interviewed by teachers, and only by teachers - the head of department concerned and the headteacher, and maybe one or two others. You get observed teaching a lesson, and have interviews with sensible questions about your previous teaching experience. HR's role is limited to dealing with the paperwork and showing people to the right rooms at the right time - they don't get to make any decisions - and nobody external has anything to do with it.

...............

Please please do not just go on trying half-heartedly until it's too late. It's the worst of both worlds, and has nothing to say for it. It's also the most effective way to saddle yourself with lasting regret.

Pupillage and tenancy are exactly like that. The only people who decide whether to make you an offer or not are the barristers in the particular set of Chambers. Clerks or whatever write to tell you where to come for an interview, what, if anything to bring, and show you where to go when you get there. If you are offered pupillage / tenancy, they sort out where your pigeon hole / desk / computer are, and tell you the admin stuff.

Nikkster, Lydia is absolute, completely right about the PhD

PasturesNew

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Only if there's no inter-marriage at all, through all those generations, though?

Not seen one yet.

Maybe it's more a posh thing.... royal family do that a lot. Commoners less so as we've plenty of village idiots knocking about in the fields.

neverdespairgirl

PasturesNew wrote: »

Not seen one yet.

Maybe it's more a posh thing.... royal family do that a lot. Commoners less so as we've plenty of village idiots knocking about in the fields.

Royal family and high aristocracy, yes, but also at the very unposh end of society, historically, as I understand it.

Certainly my family were mostly at the "Ag Lab" end of the social scale, and I'm happened across two second-cousin marriages.

zagubov

There's supposed to be a graph somewhere with two curves showing over the 19th century, the rise of the bicycle and the decline of the village idiot.:)

PasturesNew

zagubov wrote: »

There's supposed to be a graph somewhere with two curves showing over the 19th century, the rise of the bicycle and the decline of the village idiot.:)

I think we've still got them - these days they're wearing shell suits though

neverdespairgirl

zagubov wrote: »

There's supposed to be a graph somewhere with two curves showing over the 19th century, the rise of the bicycle and the decline of the village idiot.:)

Imagine if that's true, and we actually have far fewer idiots now...... Oh dear!

It's a serious problem in British people of Pakistani descent. There is a fair bit of inter-marriage in Pakistan, and for various reasons, it's become even more prevalent in British-Pakistani families. I remember reading a while ago the % of the population of Pakistani ethnic origin, and the % of babies born with genetic problems who are of Pakistani origin, and the latter figure was horribly larger than the former.

I had a client a while ago, who had married her first cousin. Both his parents and her parents were also first cousins. The genetic diversity there is scarily low.

Perhaps worse - the children of identical twins marrying. Two men, identical twins, married sisters (not twins). The girl from one marriage married the boy from the other, so the couple were related far, far too closely for safety I think.

Would they have the same average genetic relationship that half-siblings have? Or worse, half-siblings whose non-common parents were siblings as well?

neverdespairgirl

PasturesNew wrote: »

I think we've still got them - these days they're wearing shell suits though

I'll have you know I look pretty damn good in my pink shellsuit, if it's properly accessorised with a Croydon facelift and £200 trainers.