Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

PasturesNew

... in fact, let's have a dwarf lop eared bunny moment

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dwarf%20lop%20eared&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46751780,d.ZWU&biw=1262&bih=571&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=mKOaUe-aN4eyhAfo2IDgAg#imgrc=_

chewmylegoff

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'll eat the rabbit, then do that job.

Always been fascinated by the thought of going through books to spot where "it went wrong", or to spot strange movements.

That's the easy bit cos once something goes wrong you already know what the problem is and which accounting entries were not factual. Proving who was responsible and that they did it on purpose is the difficult bit as accounting standards allow directors to apply their own interpretation (although not in a disingenuous way obv...) in certain situations - it's more reading people's emails and then asking them about it and staring in disbelief as they reel off the biggest fibs ever without even a shred of shame. If you like spending a lot of time with lying sociopaths it's a great job.

chewmylegoff

PasturesNew wrote: »

... in fact, let's have a dwarf lop eared bunny moment

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dwarf%20lop%20eared&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46751780,d.ZWU&biw=1262&bih=571&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=mKOaUe-aN4eyhAfo2IDgAg#imgrc=_

I'd get the one with the trailer attachment so it can double up as a supermarket trolley.

PasturesNew

chewmylegoff wrote: »

That's the easy bit cos once something goes wrong you already know what the problem is and which accounting entries were not factual. Proving who was responsible and that they did it on purpose is the difficult bit as accounting standards allow directors to apply their own interpretation (although not in a disingenuous way obv...) in certain situations - it's more reading people's emails and then asking them about it and staring in disbelief as they reel off the biggest fibs ever without even a shred of shame. If you like spending a lot of time with lying sociopaths it's a great job.

Sounds good to me.

Itismehonest

SingleSue wrote: »

And sometimes they are not quick enough. It was because of the 'too quick to label' idea that youngest was not diagnosed in time to receive the specialist pre school therapy he needed. Instead, he was stuck with an 'autistic like behaviour' tag which didn't allow him access to the specialised speech therapy designed for autistic children, the specialised play therapy, socialisation therapy etc...and as an extra kick in the teeth, because of his difficulties, he couldn't access normal speech or play therapy either as it wasn't suitable!

It was left to me to do my own research on the internet, learn the different techniques (my research was from American sites) and put it into place in a bid to get a completely non verbal, non eye contacting, non socialising lump of human tissue to somewhere where he could actually do anything.

I don't think I have too bad to be honest.....:D

Nearly 40 years ago the internet wasn't an option. It was listen to the experts &/or use a mother's instincts.

It turned out mine didn't have a life-shortening condition. It was what was once called cretinism - giving some idea of what life would have been like before treatment was discovered.

Yes, late diagnosis &, therefore, delayed treatment caused some problems but less than all the faffing around by experts. Few therapies existed &, in our case, those that did turned out to be counter-productive & could actually have consigned my child to being forever incorrectly labelled.
Speech Therapy was around. Weekly sessions were given where the woman was totally ignored by a 2 year old. That led to hearing tests.
When I decided I needed to go back to work to earn money to provide a better future I was the evil mother. One-to-one was critical, I was told, & sending my child to a nursery where they would be surrounded by babble would consign them to the scrap heap forever. In a very short time, that was proved totally wrong. There was nothing wrong with speech or hearing.

Sometimes even very young children can be strong-willed, not to say ruddy stubborn. Mine had basically gone on strike as far as playing ball with the experts - a trait that continued to crop up at intervals for years, unfortunately, but the damage was done very early on.
So border line 'normal' school candidate aged 4 did pretty well in private education. Takes the daily tablets & leads a completely normal life.
Mother, meanwhile, underwent years of guilt trips for going against the experts. So, I feel for other mothers with children who, in any way, get 'labelled'. If the experts get it wrong it isn't them that has to live their life putting things right.

Itismehonest

On a completely different topic....

A friend (female) has just climbed Everest to raise money for charity. :cool:

LydiaJ

SingleSue wrote: »

And sometimes they are not quick enough....

I don't think I have too bad to be honest.....:D

Sue, you have done amazingly, and you still are doing amazingly. And Itsme, you have done amazingly too. I'm so glad your child got the right treatment eventually and is living such a successful life, doing a job that fits well. Isn't that what we all want for our kids? For them to have the help they need to be free to make choices and end up somewhere that they are happy to be, doing something they are happy to do? Sue's kids have "labels" that identify what help they need - not that that means they always get it, I'm afraid. And your child, having suffered through some mistaken "labels" now has the right "label" - which I'm guessing is "thyroid deficient" is it? - and is getting the right help (ie the tablets) too. I can't see what you have to feel guilty about, for going against the experts when they have since been shown to have been mistaken. Hold your head up high and remember you stuck with your kid, doing everything you could as best as you knew how, through the tunnel all the way to the sunlight.

SingleSue wrote: »

Mum and dad's late dog, who died a few years ago after living to the grand old age of 20!

Awwww! I want a cuddle.
(I'm not sure I dare show that picture to DD - the squeal might be permanently deafening to anyone within half a mile, I think.)

Spirit wrote: »

She has been given a 3 bed house in a fab small city..but has a large house with her OH about 12 miles from there. He has seen the house and had an Oscar Wilde moment declaring "either the wallpaper goes or I do!" so she may be living there mostly on her own...so I will visit.

It's OK. Clergy are allowed to redecorate if they want to. Sometimes they can get the diocese to pay for the materials or even do the work. It depends on the state of the house and the policy of the individual diocese. (At least, those are the rules in the C of E. I assume we're talking about the C of E since you mention bishops in conjunction with a married female curate.)

Have a wonderful time at the ordination.

PasturesNew

Itismehonest wrote: »

On a completely different topic....

A friend (female) has just climbed Everest to raise money for charity. :cool:

It seems to me that these people'd be better off handing over their own money and going down the pub..... the cost of doing such things often far outweighs the amount raised.

SingleSue

Itismehonest wrote: »

Nearly 40 years ago the internet wasn't an option. It was listen to the experts &/or use a mother's instincts.

It turned out mine didn't have a life-shortening condition. It was what was once called cretinism - giving some idea of what life would have been like before treatment was discovered.

Yes, late diagnosis &, therefore, delayed treatment caused some problems but less than all the faffing around by experts. Few therapies existed &, in our case, those that did turned out to be counter-productive & could actually have consigned my child to being forever incorrectly labelled.
Speech Therapy was around. Weekly sessions were given where the woman was totally ignored by a 2 year old. That led to hearing tests.
When I decided I needed to go back to work to earn money to provide a better future I was the evil mother. One-to-one was critical, I was told, & sending my child to a nursery where they would be surrounded by babble would consign them to the scrap heap forever. In a very short time, that was proved totally wrong. There was nothing wrong with speech or hearing.

Sometimes even very young children can be strong-willed, not to say ruddy stubborn. Mine had basically gone on strike as far as playing ball with the experts - a trait that continued to crop up at intervals for years, unfortunately, but the damage was done very early on.
So border line 'normal' school candidate aged 4 did pretty well in private education. Takes the daily tablets & leads a completely normal life.
Mother, meanwhile, underwent years of guilt trips for going against the experts. So, I feel for other mothers with children who, in any way, get 'labelled'. If the experts get it wrong it isn't them that has to live their life putting things right.

I've been going against the experts my whole life :rotfl:

I actually have no guilt from going against the experts, more of a gratifying "See, they didn't need drugs" sort of thing.

They wanted to put both youngest and middle on calming drugs, I refused saying there were other methods that could be used rather than drugging a child up all day, only for them to not be able to sleep at night.

It was suggested (well almost ordered) that middle son go into a residential school, I refused (we have gone over this on here before, too long a story as to why). He was also labelled unteachable by his first primary school...his current high school have great difficulty understanding why they said that!

We were told youngest would never go to a main stream high school...well he is there, ok with a very high level of support and maybe not always very successful but that has been more down to the change to an Academy.

The experts did try to label eldest son as having an ASD....that didn't get very far as I knew (and demonstrated) that apart from being slightly eccentric, he didn't meet the criteria for ASD, for a start, he had an amazing imagination and creative flair. Would you believe they tried to label him not after a lengthy diagnostic process as had been for the other two but just because he had two autistic siblings and he was having meltdowns due to stress from his siblings!

I do suffer guilt though for the childhood James missed because of the care needs of the other two (my now ex husband was about as effective as a chocolate teapot for helping out) and because I allowed myself to be fobbed off that his joint pains were perfectly normal for a growing lad....the allowing the fobbing off and the damage it caused, has accelerated his progress into a wheelchair by many years, it is now predicted to be mid 20's instead of nearer to 40.

Spirit_2

[QUOTE=LydiaJ;

It's OK. Clergy are allowed to redecorate if they want to. Sometimes they can get the diocese to pay for the materials or even do the work. It depends on the state of the house and the policy of the individual diocese. (At least, those are the rules in the C of E. I assume we're talking about the C of E since you mention bishops in conjunction with a married female curate.)

Have a wonderful time at the ordination. [/QUOTE]
She has something called 'painting week' coming up where you get a week off to go and decorate your new house. Friend has no interest in material things/style whatsoever whereas her husband will happily browse soft furnishings. They are however used to having people in to do stuff...so I expect it to become tasteful but without either of them lifting a paint brush. She tends towards high Anglican (as high as you can be being a woman in the church). The ordination is at the end of June....what to wear....Cathedral, drinks and canapes and then the 'after party' at their home. Tips welcome. Do I need a new hat?