Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

PasturesNew

CKhalvashi wrote: »

She popped in to grab my car keys, and I'd just got out the shower.

She also had another managers coffee, so I couldn't allow her not to come in, as it sent her back downstairs (we're only on the 2nd floor) to get him another one

So your female managers are used for errands and getting coffee.... and your male managers are not?

Was he without arm or leg, so he couldn't get his own?

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

Big food festival up the road this weekend.... well, it started yesterday and I'd not realised. So, as soon as I can muster enthusiasm, I'll be seeing if I can get down there (park in a road just a mile away if possible; I don't intend paying for parking).... and see if there are any cheap pies for sale. I hope to also take some "snaps" which might, at some future point, be used as thumbnails alongside my scribblings.

You shouldn't have to pay for cheap pies. There are always loads of 'taste tests' at these things. If you ooh and aah about the product then they'll give you loads of it.

Tell them you're a food blogger/writer trying to get interest in local produce and they'll probably invite you out for lunch!

CKhalvashi

PasturesNew wrote: »

So your female managers are used for errands and getting coffee.... and your male managers are not?

Was he without arm or leg, so he couldn't get his own?

I seem to remember getting the coffees yesterday morning (6 of them)

We're all on the same level, in rooms next to/opposite each other, so it makes sense. I do know, however, that all the coffee bills are being billed to room 104 (which unfortunately for me, is my room), so I don't think they can moan that much.

The guys on level 3 (our non-management team) are sorting themselves out, although saying that, the alcohol is coming out my own pocket on non-party nights, and they're being paid for 200 hours over the 2 weeks (even though they'll probably work about 140), plus hotels, food etc.

Management are salaried, instead of paid per hour, so things here are done a little differently. Management are also directly answerable to the 2 management teams (EBU and TV station) if anything goes wrong.

CK

PasturesNew

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Management are salaried, instead of paid per hour

Most people in most (office/similar) jobs are paid under that fictitious "salaried" word.... and, in my experience, it usually means that they can work you to death for no extra pay and you have to suck it up as you're "salaried". But the word is meaingless as it just seems to mean you're monthly paid instead of weekly.

neverdespairgirl

My grandparents saw salaried as a big deal - far more respectable and middle class than being paid weekly, even if you actually earned less.

CKhalvashi

PasturesNew wrote: »

Most people in most (office/similar) jobs are paid under that fictitious "salaried" word.... and, in my experience, it usually means that they can work you to death for no extra pay and you have to suck it up as you're "salaried". But the word is meaingless as it just seems to mean you're monthly paid instead of weekly.

The lowest paid 'salaried' employee here (all 6 of our UK managers are here) is on £120k, so it's not the same with us, as with some offices.

It also means, that as long as the work is done, I don't care, and also gives flexibility in hours (the lady mentioned earlier usually rolls in about 12pm, and disappears at about 8pm, for instance)

As long as there's someone on site whilst someone non-managerial is working, I don't mind, and as I usually get in between 4 and 5am, this means that for fort needs to be covered until about midnight.

I cover earlies, Studio Manager (who's also an active Producer) generally covers 2pm until midnight, and there are usually, between about 7am and 10pm, at least 2 of us on site.

We have a system whereby things get chucked between managers, and the same managers are working 40-50h on the average week, so it would well!

LydiaJ

PasturesNew wrote: »

Well, for £120k you could have people's first born and a spare kidney if you needed it. But the term "salaried" is bandied about for regular jobs at £14-15k and upwards.

The proper use of the term disappeared years ago when employers started paying everybody monthly into their bank ... and now it's really meaningless.

There's still a difference between people whose jobs have hours and those who don't. When I did an admin job, I had a fixed number of hours a week that I was paid to work. I could negotiate with my boss to shuffle them round to different days from normal if I needed to, but each week I was supposed to work that number of hours. In teaching it's not like that. My contract makes no mention of how many total hours of work I'm supposed to do, and nobody is interested in that. My contract is to do whatever is necessary to teach these classes - planning, preparation, marking, reporting etc as well as the bit in the classroom - and as long as I do all that, and do it well, it's up to me how long I take to do it, and when. I would describe that as being salaried rather than waged. (And I don't get anything like £120k, obviously. My full time rate that I'm paid pro-rata of is nowhere near that either.) I'm not bothered by the status of it, but I do prefer the autonomy. Having to do a fixed number of hours regardless of how the workload is going up and down feels restrictive and irritating to me.

Spirit_2

Generali wrote: »

I went to the docs per everyone's advice and I've been told:

1. The mole is fine
2. I'm dying. I've been given 40 years to live

My daughter has had a stomach ache and according to the doctor it's either a virus or appendicitis. There's no way to tell.

The weather is very nice for winter. 25C and sunny.

Well I think that is good news..apart from the tummy ache. Poor child.

What was the aversion to alcohol verdict?

CKhalvashi

LydiaJ wrote: »

There's still a difference between people whose jobs have hours and those who don't. When I did an admin job, I had a fixed number of hours a week that I was paid to work. I could negotiate with my boss to shuffle them round to different days from normal if I needed to, but each week I was supposed to work that number of hours. In teaching it's not like that. My contract makes no mention of how many total hours of work I'm supposed to do, and nobody is interested in that. My contract is to do whatever is necessary to teach these classes - planning, preparation, marking, reporting etc as well as the bit in the classroom - and as long as I do all that, and do it well, it's up to me how long I take to do it, and when. I would describe that as being salaried rather than waged. (And I don't get anything like £120k, obviously. My full time rate that I'm paid pro-rata of is nowhere near that either.) I'm not bothered by the status of it, but I do prefer the autonomy. Having to do a fixed number of hours regardless of how the workload is going up and down feels restrictive and irritating to me.

You mean to say that you don't work pro rata of 25h a week, and have 13 weeks holiday? :eek:

I taught for 3 years, so I know it's not as easy as that.

I think to an extent, it's a little like teaching. We've all put in a 100h week last week, this week will do so again, what I meant is that average is probably 40-50h, varied hours, varied work. It's not for all, but it's a good way of working.

We do things a little strangely, but it works for us, and we need to be flexible, due to the nature of the industry we're in.

ETA: We're 4/1 at the bookies at the moment! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

vivatifosi

Generali wrote: »

I went to the docs per everyone's advice and I've been told:

1. The mole is fine
2. I'm dying. I've been given 40 years to live

Really pleased the mole is fine Gen. So pleased for you. Mel is a horrible headf*ck that you could do without frankly. If you're worried about your skin going forward, the cancer shop in the QVB, if it is still there, does a fantastic range of sunscreen that gets recommended by docs here.