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Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

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  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    <sigh>

    I was in bed, and minding my own business, when I got dragged out of it at 12.12am by an urgent work call - someone detained at Heathrow.

    Good thing it wasn't 10 minutes earlier, otherwise OH would have been even less happy (-:
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Spirit_2
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    Good thing it wasn't 10 minutes earlier, otherwise OH would have been even less happy (-:

    :rotfl::rotfl:

    Mr S was Europe VP for a company based in California. His colleagues based there did not always consider the time difference when phoning him. I am pretty sure they were the reason our DD is an only child.

    As a director of a large hospital I was rostered to take turns as exec on-call and had a 'bleep' (radio pager). Unfortunately I would sleep through it so it woke Mr Spirit and he would wake me.
  • lostinrates
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    Spirit wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl:

    Mr S was Europe VP for a company based in California. His colleagues based there did not always consider the time difference when phoning him. I am pretty sure they were the reason our DD is an only child.

    As a director of a large hospital I was rostered to take turns as exec on-call and had a 'bleep' (radio pager). Unfortunately I would sleep through it so it woke Mr Spirit and he would wake me.

    :) work is work, I always tell dh to be grateful and worry when the phone stops ringing! That said, when they are doing big deals I don't understand why they don't divy the stuff up by time zone than what other crazy method they use. It's not uncommon for dh's clients or colleagues to be covering pretty much all hours of the day, so the random calls can be both late into the night and well before this early riser gets up. It seems sensible to let people have files which are more likely to lead to calls before sayi, 2 am or more likely to get them after then, so they can get some uninterrupted sleep.

    I'm used to it, it's how my dad was too, phone rings, you go to work. As I got older I used to help my mother sort out clothes for him while he was in the call. Very occasionally phone rang then helicopter arrived to take him away...which was quite exciting. On one m,e oracle occasion I heard something on the news before he had the call.....in fact I was driving home from a night out and heard it, and dismissed it, then it kept being repeated, so when I got home I was amazed he was there, but woke him up, convinced him and then the phone rang.....that was actually a horrifying time.

    Any way a call about a paperwork point for dh always seems to me less dramatic.
  • GDB2222
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    Spirit wrote: »
    As a director of a large hospital I was rostered to take turns as exec on-call and had a 'bleep' (radio pager). Unfortunately I would sleep through it so it woke Mr Spirit and he would wake me.

    Going off at a tangent, can I ask how hospitals deal with unruly patients? I don't mean the drunks who roll up into casualty, but people with long-term brain damage, perhaps from strokes. For example, stroke survivors with frontal brain damage can be very uninhibited, but these people are very much patients who need care.

    It's all very well having a zero tolerance policy, etc, but when the patients are unable to help themselves it seems wrong to exclude them.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    That GDB, he is always sticking up for me. ;)
  • zagubov
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    Spirit wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl:

    Mr S was Europe VP for a company based in California. His colleagues based there did not always consider the time difference when phoning him. I am pretty sure they were the reason our DD is an only child.

    As a director of a large hospital I was rostered to take turns as exec on-call and had a 'bleep' (radio pager). Unfortunately I would sleep through it so it woke Mr Spirit and he would wake me.

    Stuff like that never happens to me but a friend and colleague who taught but also played in a band was woken up at night by a DJ from a US radio station and interviewed during a live broadcast. He's had a tune named after him (written by somebody else) which was used as the publicity music for a hollywood blockbuster that was premiering in the New York area and they wanted his reaction to having his tune used.

    He just dealt with it politely and amiably as he was a total gentleman. At his funeral (the one I discussed earlier where I had to use about a dozen modes of transport to get there and back up in Cumbria) I met his friend who had written the actual tune.
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  • Spirit_2
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Going off at a tangent, can I ask how hospitals deal with unruly patients? I don't mean the drunks who roll up into casualty, but people with long-term brain damage, perhaps from strokes. For example, stroke survivors with frontal brain damage can be very uninhibited, but these people are very much patients who need care.

    It's all very well having a zero tolerance policy, etc, but when the patients are unable to help themselves it seems wrong to exclude them.

    Staff are often very tolerant of the abuse/violence that they get from patients who cannot help themselves....however there is a health and safety aspect for the staff too.


    I am not involved with this but in my experience Acute needs for healthcare are met, social needs being referred back to other agencies. My personal view is that there is a point where staff should not be expected to put themselves in danger to provide healthcare. There is the aftermath (fear/sickness absence/injury) of when aggressive strong patients attack or are a serious safety hazard to NHS staff. On a practical level how do you tend to their needs when they are lashing out, lunging and threatening.

    I feel especially sorry Ambulance staff who report being subject to high levels of violence.
  • silvercar
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    It never bothers me, but security advice from police etc is always to keep hedges and gates etc at a metre or below...so that their is less place to hide I guess.

    Personally, I prefer privacy, but worth considering.

    Gravel on the drive, puts burglars off as they can't approach quietly and those lights that detect movement.

    fc123 wrote: »
    In the end location is everything as you can change the look/interior but not where it is.

    Totally agree, live in a safe area.

    Location, location, location you can change windows and wallpaper.

    Spirit wrote: »
    DD has asked me to help her home dye her hair tomorrow. She has never done anything like this before, and neither have I.

    I am appalled at the idea but do not want to be judgemental. I am very conservative.

    This may be beacause she would like a change/boost after a hard few months and highlights will cost £120.

    Mr S suggests we offer to treat her.

    NP thoughts please, do I support her decison without further comment and help her or sound out the option of highlights?

    If you are going to assist, then I wouldn't try highlights as a first attempt. You risk being blamed if the highlights are too subtle to notice, too bright or you have captured too much hair and she ressembles a zebra! Go for a wash-in, wash-out colour or a semi-perm.

    £120 for highlights!!!! For that you should be getting a colour cut, blow dry and highlights....and a coffee or two.
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  • Spirit_2
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    silvercar wrote: »

    £120 for highlights!!!! For that you should be getting a colour cut, blow dry and highlights....and a coffee or two.


    I had thought it OK as it is £47 for a cut & blow dry. I have gone to the same hair dresser for the last 15 years.

    DD for her last cut had it done at the Uni hair dressers and it was £29 as she is watching her pennies but would go back to our usual place for highlights.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    Spirit wrote: »
    I had thought it OK as it is £47 for a cut & blow dry. I have gone to the same hair dresser for the last 15 years.

    DD for her last cut had it done at the Uni hair dressers and it was £29 as she is watching her pennies but would go back to our usual place for highlights.

    Honestly.....I think she should find her own hairdresser or rope in a friend. There are places it will be cheaper...less nice I am certain, but cheaper.

    I would suggest its ill advised to start something she will struggle to maintain when she flees the nest.

    Ironically, I always seek to find a different hairdresser to my family when I live with or near them, but my mother has taken the biscuit by driving to where Lydia lives to have her hair done (a two hour drive or so from where she is) to use a hairdresser I used about fifteen years ago! Ridiculous.
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