Council Tax Support 500% increase in Council Tax - not so supportive

MissMoneypenny

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

How do you know he is not already in a small property or one that meets his "needs" as he is disabled!? What a cheek!

Ah right - I get it. You don't want solutions on how to deal with your benefit cuts. But moaning won't help you cut your cloth accordingly. Nor will wishing the benefit cuts aren't coming in, because they are.

There are plenty of ideas on this site; but I guess you don't want to hear those either?

Sometimes you just have to face reality.

MissMoneypenny

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

Christ this government are doing a great job of turning people against one another

Strange how that didn't happen when those in private rentals, had their benefit cuts.

rogerblack

BigAunty wrote: »

I'm in Scotland so I'm not affected by it.

This year. (2013/14)
As I understand it, next year hasn't been decided on yet.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmworpen/576/576vw23.htm
Written evidence submitted by the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities

While the total funding to be devolved has yet to be announced, we understand that, in considering the level of funding, reference has been made to the Department for Work and Pensions forecasts for Council Tax Benefit expenditure up to 2015–16 (Medium Term Forecast for all DWP Benefits updated 20/07/12) as being the basis for determining the funding to be made available.1 These forecasts appear to be indicating that the expenditure for Scotland will reduce by a greater margin than the 10% cut, compared with the estimate for 2012–13. By 2015–16 the forecast expenditure for Scotland will have dropped by 18% (£70 million). At the same time the overall forecast for England, Wales and Scotland combined falls by 10.7% in 2013–14, with a slight increase in expenditure for 2014–15 and 2015–16. Whilst we are not in a position to offer our own forecasts, instinctively the position set out in the DWP forecasts seems to us to be contrary to our expectations and appears to leave Scotland at a significant disadvantage compared with the rest of Great Britain.

The current 10% cut in funding is being borne by the Scottish Government, and councils together.
It's questionable if 18% can be sustained in this manner with no alteration in the scheme.

sunnyone

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Strange how that didn't happen when those in private rentals, had their benefit cuts.

it didnt happen for some other benefit changes either like when my IVB was frozen because I got a age allowance, Ive lost @£30 per week so far and it didnt get a mention.

evenasus

nannytone wrote: »

dribe your power chair with your eyes shut and see how far that gets you!

Have a read of this article on a man born totally deaf and blind...http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/business/business-news/deafblind-graham-s-the-cycle-surgeon-1-622791

Sadly, some low life burgled his business recently... http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/thief-who-burgled-deafblind-record-holder-jailed-1-4906719

mysterywoman10

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Ah right - I get it. You don't want solutions on how to deal with your benefit cuts. But moaning won't help you cut your cloth accordingly. Nor will wishing the benefit cuts aren't coming in, because they are.

There are plenty of ideas on this site; but I guess you don't want to hear those either?

Sometimes you just have to face reality.

You make a lot of assumptions there Miss Moneypenny I am not affected at all by the Benefit Cuts and I am very proactive in other areas, which I hope will enable a lot of people not to be affected by the cuts. So the "reality" you talk of does not affect me as I am not in receipt of any benefits.

I am all for ideas and advice but I really do find it unacceptable when posters start telling people "they should move" as a solution, this is clearly a last resort for anyone and they don't really need telling.

We have not yet started addressing the issue of Appeals and for many this is going to be an option (although probably not on the Council tax).

As you say there is lots of very useful advice across MSE and I have taken it when I've asked for it and found it to be very helpful.

mysterywoman10

bloolagoon wrote: »

Individuals do that not those who reside in Number 10. I fight very hard to ensure that those with Mental Health issues are recognised. They are as real as those in a wheelchair, yet often scorned or unrecognised. There true opposition is those who claim stress for a comment at work, who trivialise the horrors that people go through with true conditions.

The reality is there are people locked indoors with little or no life, no support as sometimes family do not acknowledge this or feel a kick up the backside and a talking to will make them healthy. They are called frauds, liars and at times by those that propose to love and care for them.

The true cost of our society is not paying some council tax but those whose families do not support them, those whose families seem to think that the state need to pay and absolve them of emotionally, physical or financial support. We have gone very wrong as a society at times.

I agree with this post very much, we do need to support each other and it can be very very difficult for someone with Mental Health issues. Are you able to point me in the direction of any organsiations that give support to families trying to support a loved one in the way you describe please?

BigAunty

I like Nannytone's posts.

We need people like her on the forum to remind how these cuts are hitting people on the ground, rather than just the stats and opinions that politicians come out with.

It is clear that she has a life of hardship and a subsistence standard of living because the policies have treated her like a number rather than as a person with a life so it's no wonder that there is negativity in her posts, there's not much to be happy about.

I'm broadly in favour of many of the benefit changes though some in particular are just too harsh and are punishing the recipients as the symptom of society's problems rather than the sorting out the cause.

For example, I think as the community uses the local council services, then everyone should pay towards council tax and it will also stop the culture of people who see it as something other people pay for them but I would rather see a token sum paid by all benefit recipients rather than a postcode lottery so every area is different and not see a few groups taking up the slack to give others the full discount.

I think there should be a scheme to encourage social housing tenants to downsize - they've got the right to larger properties when their household size expands but no obligation to move when it is too big for their needs. The housing benefit reduction/spare room subsidy/bedroom tax scheme is too crude and isn't the right way to address under occupancy.

I think I need posts like Nannytone's to remind me that there are human beings affected by each decision, too see what happens on the ground when seemingly logical, sensible schemes are set up but actually backfire.

sunnyone

nannytone wrote: »

yes they are just as important! as are those with sensory disabilities.

but poeple sich as sunnyone think that because they are in a powerchair ... they are te only deserving people.

when other disabked people are sowulling to turn against others ,,, what hope is there?

i hold the higher moral ground as i campaign for everyone that is outside the ainstream

Why are you bringing my name up in threads I have not posted on?

Im sure stalking other posters is against the rules, keep it up and get banned.

People are not turning on others on mass, some posters are just nasty and thats why people dislike them, it has nothing to do with disability.

You hold the moral high ground?

You lost that a long time ago when you started turning on other benfit claimants and you decided that they can afford the changes from their benefits.

mysterywoman10

BigAunty wrote: »

I like Nannytone's posts.

We need people like her on the forum to remind how these cuts are hitting people on the ground, rather than just the stats and opinions that politicians come out with.

It is clear that she has a life of hardship and a subsistence standard of living because the policies have treated her like a number rather than as a person with a life so it's no wonder that there is negativity in her posts, there's not much to be happy about.

I'm broadly in favour of many of the benefit changes though some in particular are just too harsh and are punishing the recipients as the symptom of society's problems rather than the sorting out the cause.

For example, I think as the community uses the local council services, then everyone should pay towards council tax and it will also stop the culture of people who see it as something other people pay for them but I would rather see a token sum paid by all benefit recipients rather than a postcode lottery so every area is different and not see a few groups taking up the slack to give others the full discount.

I think there should be a scheme to encourage social housing tenants to downsize - they've got the right to larger properties when their household size expands but no obligation to move when it is too big for their needs. The housing benefit reduction/spare room subsidy/bedroom tax scheme is too crude and isn't the right way to address under occupancy.

I think I need posts like Nannytone's to remind me that there are human beings affected by each decision, too see what happens on the ground when seemingly logical, sensible schemes are set up but actually backfire.

Very well put BigAunty