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Council Tax Support 500% increase in Council Tax - not so supportive

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  • ab.da54
    ab.da54 Posts: 4,381 Forumite
    DanE2010 wrote: »
    In nannytones defense maybe she is getting abit short with people because she has to explain herself in every thread about this subject?

    Not being funny but every thread about this subject turns into her making a comment, same posters come along and make the same digs about how she spends her money etc etc and her constantly having to defend herself, its quite uncomfortable to read actually. If you dont get on just ignore each other but it totally takes away from the subject of the thread and just turns nasty.

    When people post their situation, it's natural for others on the outside to iffer suggestions and sometimes, those on the outside can see things the person directly involved with the situation, can't.

    This area of the board is for help and advice. If nannytone posts that she now has to choose between heating and eating and someone makes a perfectly polite suggestion, is it having a dig? Is it right for nannytone to be rude because someone has made a polite suggestion?

    On these boards, people post and others, including nannytone, offer their advice. Sometimes the post nannytone gives is not advice the OP wants. Does that give them a right to be rude to nannytone? No, it doesn't. Equally, it doesn't give nannytone a right to be rud eto others.

    Perhaps, if nannytone does not want any suggestions about how she can make this difficult situation a bit easier, perhaps, respectfully, she shouldn't make the posts about her and her situation, instead sticking to the topic in general.
    Dear Lord, I am calling upon you today for your divine guidance and help. I am in crisis and need a supporting hand to keep me on the right and just path. My mind is troubled but I will strive to keep it set on you, as your infinite wisdom will show me the way to a just and right resolution. Amen.
  • DanE2010
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    To be fair, time and time again nannytone turns these threads into a diatribe about her own situation. Invariably the OP falls by the wayside. I don't think anybody doubts that nannytone has been dealt a bum deal but spewing bile at all and sundry on here isn't terribly constructive.

    Then why reply to her if they have heard it all before, it wouldnt be turned into a thread all about her if people didnt pick up on her posts? Granted if your a poster who hasnt come across her posts/situation before and you want to clarify/ask questions, but doing it over and over again in thread after thread when everythings already been said? Its tiresome for those reading the thread, its like being in school on here sometimes.
  • DanE2010
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    ab.da54 wrote: »
    When people post their situation, it's natural for others on the outside to iffer suggestions and sometimes, those on the outside can see things the person directly involved with the situation, can't.

    This area of the board is for help and advice. If nannytone posts that she now has to choose between heating and eating and someone makes a perfectly polite suggestion, is it having a dig? Is it right for nannytone to be rude because someone has made a polite suggestion?

    On these boards, people post and others, including nannytone, offer their advice. Sometimes the post nannytone gives is not advice the OP wants. Does that give them a right to be rude to nannytone? No, it doesn't. Equally, it doesn't give nannytone a right to be rud eto others.

    Perhaps, if nannytone does not want any suggestions about how she can make this difficult situation a bit easier, perhaps, respectfully, she shouldn't make the posts about her and her situation, instead sticking to the topic in general.

    But ive seen you in other threads about this with nannytone and they ended up the same way too so why waste your breath when you know what the reaction will be? Its like a broken record to be honest.
  • starrystarry
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    DanE2010 wrote: »
    Then why reply to her if they have heard it all before, it wouldnt be turned into a thread all about her if people didnt pick up on her posts? Granted if your a poster who hasnt come across her posts/situation before and you want to clarify/ask questions, but doing it over and over again in thread after thread when everythings already been said? Its tiresome for those reading the thread, its like being in school on here sometimes.

    I agree, perhaps it would be better if people didn't respond but nanny's difficult to ignore, her posts are quite emotive.
  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    DanE2010 wrote: »
    Then why reply to her if they have heard it all before, it wouldnt be turned into a thread all about her if people didnt pick up on her posts? Granted if your a poster who hasnt come across her posts/situation before and you want to clarify/ask questions, but doing it over and over again in thread after thread when everythings already been said? Its tiresome for those reading the thread, its like being in school on here sometimes.


    Have you ever considered that people do care about her? Online communities are equally as viable on off line. I get annoyed at her post because she reminds me of my mother in law. She went through a stage of self pity and needed a reality check. Nannytone is highly intelligent, aware, focussed and capable or work. None sight does not equal life on benefits.

    However, when suggest she learns braille, does an OU course, opens her horizons it is thrown back as rude and with a torrent of none acceptable dialogue.

    Very few of us have no choices, you live by those choices. I will not live past 5 years, never see my children leave high school or marry. I cannot pity those whose who have a sensory disability when my mother in law will raise my children as a surrogate mother, to do so will mean my children will lose. They lose a mother and gain a wise, sage, competent and highly intelligent surrogate who will raise them well.
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  • ab.da54
    ab.da54 Posts: 4,381 Forumite
    DanE2010 wrote: »
    But ive seen you in other threads about this with nannytone and they ended up the same way too so why waste your breath when you know what the reaction will be? Its like a broken record to be honest.

    I offered a genuine suggestion as I know that things are a struggle. I don't know everything about nannytone's life. If you had made the same comment about heating or eating, my suggestion would have been the same. I had no idea what the reaction would be. Past threads are in the past. My comments would have been the same where someone had said they were going to struggle with eating.
    Dear Lord, I am calling upon you today for your divine guidance and help. I am in crisis and need a supporting hand to keep me on the right and just path. My mind is troubled but I will strive to keep it set on you, as your infinite wisdom will show me the way to a just and right resolution. Amen.
  • DanE2010
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    I actually havent seen you in the posts I have read where it turns into a thread all about her, as I said earlier its the groundhog day posts that are tiresome, and it doesnt appear to be because 'they care' at all, she has been grilled plenty in other threads so when I came across this one aswell I just thought whats the point in questioning her when she has already explained herself numerous times in threads that they have participated in already? Im sure she gets the message by now surely? I can see both sides but it does seem to be the same people grilling her or 'offering suggestions' when they already know why she hasnt done this or that etc, it just comes across like she is being singled out. If she is rude or doesnt want to listen thats her get up dont bother wasting your breath on someone not prepared to listen. Maybe she didnt ask for advice but is merely using her situation as an example of how these cuts are affecting people? which is what most of us do, take our own experiences and use them as an example.

    Anyways thats just my take on things im sure you dont agree fair enough but il say no more as now im de-railing the thread, the irony!
    bloolagoon wrote: »
    Have you ever considered that people do care about her? Online communities are equally as viable on off line. I get annoyed at her post because she reminds me of my mother in law. She went through a stage of self pity and needed a reality check. Nannytone is highly intelligent, aware, focussed and capable or work. None sight does not equal life on benefits.

    However, when suggest she learns braille, does an OU course, opens her horizons it is thrown back as rude and with a torrent of none acceptable dialogue.

    Very few of us have no choices, you live by those choices. I will not live past 5 years, never see my children leave high school or marry. I cannot pity those whose who have a sensory disability when my mother in law will raise my children as a surrogate mother, to do so will mean my children will lose. They lose a mother and gain a wise, sage, competent and highly intelligent surrogate who will raise them well.
    ab.da54 wrote: »
    I offered a genuine suggestion as I know that things are a struggle. I don't know everything about nannytone's life. If you had made the same comment about heating or eating, my suggestion would have been the same. I had no idea what the reaction would be. Past threads are in the past. My comments would have been the same where someone had said they were going to struggle with eating.
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    I actually agree with you Dan. Although ab.da and bloolagoon aren't the ones I normally see. ab.da does offer good advice in all fairness. And is open to debate when needed. But I do know who you are talking about when you mention this :)
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  • KxMx
    KxMx Posts: 11,290 Forumite
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    mazza111 wrote: »
    I actually agree with you Dan. Although ab.da and bloolagoon aren't the ones I normally see. ab.da does offer good advice in all fairness. And is open to debate when needed. But I do know who you are talking about when you mention this :)

    Yes, it is somewhat satisfying to see more and more members around the forum seeing those posters in their true colours!
  • our council is charging 8.5% so have gone from paying zero to £85 a year(band A),so could have been worse,plus exempted from bedroom tax as we get HB for mobile home fees
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