MSE Newborn to 1 year (& beyond!) baby club 2

*Nutella*

Cake, I meant to reply to your question about milk and weaning the other day, and completely forgot... It's probably a bit of trial and error to find what works for you, but here's what we did: We started weaning at the end of October, when she was on 6 x 150ml milk per day (she's never wanted as much as the 'recommended' amount in one go). By Christmas we had reduced this to 4 x 150ml, and by early February we were down to 3 x 180ml. As of the beginning of April, it's 2 x 180ml.

It's only very recently (because she naps less now) that we've managed to fit in 3 meals and 2 snacks every day tbh, but she always has that on nursery days (3 days a week) as she sleeps less there. On the days she's at home, I work to the nursery food schedule and adjust timings to suit the time she wakes up, naps etc. but keeping the same length of time between meals. I found following their schedule really helpful, as it's obviously been worked out according to what works for most babies. Let me know if you want me to jot it down for you x

Cake4brains

Gillyx wrote: »

Were the girls early Cake? Development leaps tend to go on gestational age/due date, and there is a major sleep regression around 16-19 weeks x

Hi Gilly, they were born at 37 weeks. Maybe they're just slow developers :cool:

Moneypenny, that's exactly how we are. How old is your LO now?

Thanks Nutella. I mentioned it to HV yesterday too. She said as long as they are having 20oz a day anything else will be ok. They are having that through night and early morning anyway :cool:

Amelia's having a very sleepy day today. She went back to sleep at 5am and woke up at 8am. Then was back in bed at 10.30 til 1.45. She's now falling asleep on settee. She never sleeps at this time! We always start getting them ready for bed about 6 and its usually about 7pm by the time we put them to bed. So now I don't know what to do with her :rotfl: Don't know if I should just put her to bed 2 hours early and hope she sleeps through.

She's fallen asleep in the time its taken to write this :rotfl:

Good luck with the sleep training Nutella, I'd never heard of that before

katiechoc_2

Nutella we've got a little life backpack too, the spider one. Haven't really used it much yet as he's only been walking outside in the park and away from the road etc. he had a whale of a time in the park earlier, it's so sunny and lovely here! Little monster kept inviting himself to other people's picnics!

BadlyWrittenPoem

I can't remember who it was but I've just remembered somebody was asking about BLW and whether it could be done if "early" weaning and I meant to answer but never did.

The original research on BLW was done by starting with babies who started at four months old and the majority started to actually consume food at around six months so it is quite possible to start BLW "early". (I haven't checked the date of the research but I presume it was done when the advice was to wean any time between 4 and 6 months.) The theory behind BLW is that babies don't need solids before they are developmentally capable of eating regular solid food and that if you just keep giving it to them to practice they will learn how to eat in time for when they *need* food. Given currently the standard official advice is to wait until six months, usually anyone weaning before this time (i.e. "early") is doing so because they believe (based on their own judgement and/or medical advice) that milk is not sufficient for their baby and that they do *need* food. If the baby *needs* food then BLW would not be appropriate as it could take a while for them to be able to actually consume food so whilst it is perfectly possible to start BLW "early", in general the reason for "early" weaning would rule out doing so.

I hope that is useful and I'm happy to say more about BLW if useful.

moneypenny21

Cake - She is 17 weeks. I keep reminding myself its not 'newborn sleep' but I had become accustomed to a few more hours per night! I've read that one of the signs they are ready for solids is waking up more in the night but I'm not sure if that is the case here or not. It could just be the sleep regression Gilly mentioned. Either way...somethings going on! The light mornings are a nightmare, she wakes up at 5am and is awake then! :eek:


Just wondering why babies born two weeks late don't have their age corrected like the babies that are born before full term? (sorry for my ignorance, I've no idea at what gestational age babies get their ages corrected or if that is even the right term). It was just something I pondered, I understand why they do it for early babies, is there just no need to do it for late babies?

*Nutella*

Sammie_03 wrote: »

Nutella - I don't know how you cope with harfly any sleep......you must be super woman! I'm ready to commit murder if I don't get at least 8 hours sleep a night!

I guess I'm lucky in that I have an office job, which although busy, doesn't involve lots of standing or walking or constant direct contact with the general public. I can't begin to imagine how exhausting it must be to work in eg a shop. It's actually surprising that there aren't more murders committed by sleep deprived parents. Or maybe we're just too tired to bother...

Bamama

Moneypenny... I assume it's because from 37 weeks they are classed as full term. Despite the extra cooking I don't think a 42weeker has an advantage over a 37weeker. But before the 37 weeks they haven't fully developed... the development happens outside so they need to be adjusted because they will be behind for their "born age". If that makes sense?

moneypenny21

Ahh I see, I suppose so thanks Bamama. Was just pondering about it. Technically I should have a 20 week old. She just didn't know about it

Had a very green nappy tonight Hopefully just a byproduct of the swimming pool water she swallowed rather than a tummy bug - not ready for that!

Nutella - I still think you deserve a medal for working with sleep deprivation no matter what job! I'm exhausted and get to sleep til midday if I want to !

*Nutella*

She slept from 7pm to 5.15am! :j:j:j

I fully realise that it could have been a one-off rather than the start of something great, but given that I can count on one hand the number of times she's slept through in the past 11 months, it's a cause for celebration nonetheless. But here's hoping she enjoyed it so much she'll want to do it again and again and again...

Hope everyone else had a good night too (in fact, I hope you're all still sleeping!) x

sunshine_1988

Yay Nutella!!!

Our good night from Fri was not repeated....awful night. He woke at 1am and did the screaming for milk. I didnt give in and he got really upset, pushing away his dummy and blanket, throwing himself back - not good. OH took over for 45 mins and he was still going for it. In the end he did 2.5hours of tantruming for milk! He eventually fell asleep at 3 but woke at 630 in a very jolly mood! I am shattered lol but he is not!

Ah well, I didnt give in thats the main thing. Not sure how tonight will be though when I have work the next day!! X