Anybody heard of Infranomics

Richie-from-the-Boro

There are 4 threads in total on MSE in which 'Infranomic' forms part of the thread going back to 2009. Of recent times, only one month ago the phrase Infranomic was introduced by myself in response to jwdale80's question on the National Trust for Scotland.

Up to speed then with this thread, which was discussing non-brand infra-red, the brand-specific 'Infranomic' was first introduced by iangec, who has a wholly natural and interested inquiring mind in #1, he asked for the views of members, members of MSE gave their views, I am one of those members and I will not have you telling me what I can and can not do, I have every right, and I'll use that right regardless of your second implied threat, that's what this forum is for ! Then subsequently by Healthyheat in #42 not by myself, that sir I would not remotely describe as "plastering".

That sir, the issue of bogus traders and potential brand infringements is something you, and all brand owners need to protect, particularly online. If its Healthyheat you are referring to you know who they are. Its something this group is already aware of. -

jwdale80

I heard that the BBC are creating a documentary about 'the rising costs of heating fuel', in which infrared panels will be featured as a cheaper alternative-...I WISH! :rotfl:
Joking aside, I really do wish that would happen. Anyway appologies from me if my mentioning of brand names caused difficulties with any particular traders. I've no wish to bring anyone down, but to hear peoples opinions- though some opinions still need more evidence. There were more posts here this morning!??

Dkjswelman

I have looked at a number of the posts here and they all appear to have been made by experts, until you realise that the majority of the comments are made out of suspicion and doubt, telling everybody to avoid this because they don't believe it.
Can I give the opinion of an actual user. I have recently become a user of Infranomic Heating, changing from LPG Calor Gas. I have seen a significant reduction in energy usage and without losing any of the previous comforts. My home is considerably warmer throughout now, where previously some rooms went unheated because the radiators were turned to low to cut down the bills.
I can only recommend anybody with electric storage heaters, LPG or oil fired systems at least investigate this. The internet is full of so called experts but I can only recommend this as a solution to high heating costs. I am not alone with this opinion, as this was recommended to me by a number of my neighbours, who are also delighted with the reduced bills that this winter has brought.
I hope that this has been of help to anybody that may have been considering this as an option, have a look at it and then make up your own mind based on the information that you get direct from the supplier.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Dkjswelman wrote: »

I have looked at a number of the posts here and they all appear to have been made by experts, until you realise that the majority of the comments are made out of suspicion and doubt, telling everybody to avoid this because they don't believe it.
Can I give the opinion of an actual user. I have recently become a user of Infranomic Heating, changing from LPG Calor Gas. I have seen a significant reduction in energy usage and without losing any of the previous comforts. My home is considerably warmer throughout now, where previously some rooms went unheated because the radiators were turned to low to cut down the bills.
I can only recommend anybody with electric storage heaters, LPG or oil fired systems at least investigate this. The internet is full of so called experts but I can only recommend this as a solution to high heating costs. I am not alone with this opinion, as this was recommended to me by a number of my neighbours, who are also delighted with the reduced bills that this winter has brought.
I hope that this has been of help to anybody that may have been considering this as an option, have a look at it and then make up your own mind based on the information that you get direct from the supplier.

make up your own mind ""based on the information that you get direct from the supplier""

- a~n~other first time poster the very next day saying precisely the same as the supplier
- now semi-self-detached from the supplier, but repeating precisely the same mantra
- essentially saying ignore all opinion other than what the double glazing salesman tells you !

Transparent !

fishybusiness

I hope that this has been of help to anybody that may have been considering this as an option, have a look at it and then make up your own mind based on the information that you get direct from the supplier.

Don't see how that can help anyone, looks like a recommendation taken straight out of Readers Digest......

I can only recommend anybody with electric storage heaters, LPG or oil fired systems at least investigate this.

I don't agree, I have two infrared panels, and I consider they are cheaper to run than oil filled radiators, or any other electric heater during the day, but not cheaper than oil, and depending on LPG cost perhaps not cheaper than LPG.

Storage heaters perhaps remain the cheapest, and for most people the most convenient way to use electricity for heat, on a good E7 tariff.

Richie-from-the-Boro

fishybusiness wrote: »

Don't see how that can help anyone, looks like a recommendation taken straight out of Readers Digest......



I don't agree, I have two infrared panels, and I consider they are cheaper to run than oil filled radiators, or any other electric heater during the day, but not cheaper than oil, and depending on LPG cost perhaps not cheaper than LPG.

Storage heaters perhaps remain the cheapest, and for most people the most convenient way to use electricity for heat, on a good E7 tariff.

HiYa fishybusiness,

It's never recently mentioned by myself or others, but you of all the posters are more liable to remember that I have had two Infra-red Panels, used them, know about their 'hands on' practicability in real world domestic use, and still own one of them.

I have consistently been willing to debate with what are essentially double-glazing salesmen the benefits of infra-red compared to all other forms of domestic heating. I have done this throughout the whole period, brand non-specific with all comers.

Its my view that they come here to generate leads, and immediately encourage 'off site and out of sight' contacts away from anyone who might give a more thoughtful, thought through and factual analysis and comparison of their product ~v~ other alternatives. The evidence for this statement is there for all to read in these threads.

You are pro infra-red, but you are open and honest and set out its limitations as well as benefits. They, the sellers just want three things (1) your phone number (2) your bank account number and (3) to stifle all critical debate. Coming here continually as they do, does nothing for their google rankings [I checked a minute ago] but always ends in re-opening a negative outcome for them. Others reading these forums will at least get a non sales, hands on view of the product. In this case you for and myself against, that's always been fine with me as you know. It allows the subject to be aired without being slanted then taken 'out of sight' and out of the scrutiny of MSE posters.

That's why salesman and their masters can not pay to buy advertising space on MSE - precisely one of the reasons why so many people use MSE! Equally, they're not allowed to advertise any goods, services and/or companies anywhere on the forum, or through private messages, no matter how honourable [cough cough] their intentions. Advertising or posting for gain is strictly forbidden on MSE.

NOTE : I have consistently said for years MSE should ban the use of PM's, along with posting URL's for newbies until their intention is known.

Cardew

Dkjswelman wrote: »

I have looked at a number of the posts here and they all appear to have been made by experts, until you realise that the majority of the comments are made out of suspicion and doubt, telling everybody to avoid this because they don't believe it.
Can I give the opinion of an actual user. I have recently become a user of Infranomic Heating, changing from LPG Calor Gas. I have seen a significant reduction in energy usage and without losing any of the previous comforts. My home is considerably warmer throughout now, where previously some rooms went unheated because the radiators were turned to low to cut down the bills.
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Welcome to yet another first time poster praising a product.

Firstly the 'experts' you refer to in a disparaging manner are merely quoting the laws of physics - in particular something advanced by Mr Albert Einstein.

Most proponents of these heaters carefully phrase their posts to imply they are cheaper to run than other electrical heaters.

If your home is 'considerably warmer' by using these heaters, it 100% certain that it would be equally as warm using any electrical heater using the same amount of energy - that includes £10 fan heaters.

If your house is warmer now by using less energy from LPG then it can only be because you had an unbelievably inefficient LPG boiler.

However if infrared is a must for you, why not get cheap infrared heaters? Would you care to tell us how much you paid for your Infranomic heaters. As this is a money saving website, it would be useful information.

John_Pierpoint

Infra red heating is here and it won't blow your lighting fuse if you have only one.
Just don't spend too long on the throne, to allow your core body temperature to drop too far.



http://www.qvsdirect.com/750w-bathroom-heater-light-unit?

Themaddog

Found it in another thread

John_Pierpoint

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4331207