Bedroom Tax and kids living away??

meerustar

God, I'm glad some of the posters here don't run the country!! They'd have everyone out on the streets ... bar themselves of course as they will never lose their jobs or get sick!

garyandsandra

Funny how people say what they say. I would guarantee probably everyone on here if they were in the same situation when they only needed 2 beds but were offered 3 how many do you think would have said no. were all human and in hindsight maybe or while your living in a private house again maybe different but until you are actually in the position I dont think you can really comment on morals and how people should respond.
Also most people who were offered these like my parents were planning a future which would have involved kids. Your hardly going to take a 1 bed house when you plan on having kids.
Would the Council be so quick to find you a bigger property when the need arises.....i dont think so!. Thats why people took what they were offered, most people who buy a house with a 25 year mortgage buy a house with more bedrooms than they need, its just what humans do.

Only last week I was in the job center and there was a booklet entitled, how to claim benefits when coming from abroad!. and this is fair???

garyandsandra

meerustar wrote: »

God, I'm glad some of the posters here don't run the country!! They'd have everyone out on the streets ... bar themselves of course as they will never lose their jobs or get sick!

Some of us live in the real world, some of us dont!

Valli

garyandsandra wrote: »

@GENTILE. I understand the benefit system as for the last 20 years i have been one who are funding those on benefits.

Also I never chose to have a 3 bedroomed house so why is this my fault?

Seriously? Because you've been working you understand the benefits system? Wow!

Ask for a 2 bed then. Use camp beds for the kids when they visit!

cockaleekee

Have you looked at self employment - cleaning, courier/ delivery work etc?

garyandsandra wrote: »

Only last week I was in the job center and there was a booklet entitled, how to claim benefits when coming from abroad!. and this is fair???

Boring, really boring. If you'd bothered to read it, you would see it is far from simple. But then you'd have nothing to moan about ...

princessdon

garyandsandra wrote: »

Funny how people say what they say. I would guarantee probably everyone on here if they were in the same situation when they only needed 2 beds but were offered 3 how many do you think would have said no. were all human and in hindsight maybe or while your living in a private house again maybe different but until you are actually in the position I dont think you can really comment on morals and how people should respond.
Also most people who were offered these like my parents were planning a future which would have involved kids. Your hardly going to take a 1 bed house when you plan on having kids.
Would the Council be so quick to find you a bigger property when the need arises.....i dont think so!. Thats why people took what they were offered, most people who buy a house with a 25 year mortgage buy a house with more bedrooms than they need, its just what humans do.

Only last week I was in the job center and there was a booklet entitled, how to claim benefits when coming from abroad!. and this is fair???

No is not fair - there is no money. As you are aware people are losing their jobs, income from taxes along with huge HB claims in private sector and no SH means this is now the case.

As I have always owned my own home, I have always had affordability in mind, I'd be stupid not to. Eg my first home was a 1 bed studio, not a 3 bed.

Valli

garyandsandra wrote: »

Only last week I was in the job center and there was a booklet entitled, how to claim benefits when coming from abroad!. and this is fair???

Claiming benefits IS NOT the same as being awarded them!

Morlock

Gentile wrote: »

Then millionaires too. How dare they have more money than others ? After that mansions, anybody having a mansion should be told to give it up to the council who can then give it a family who needs it !

Mansion tax, yes, that is a step in the right direction.

Morlock

princessdon wrote: »

Being honest - did you ever say to the council. I don't need 3 bedrooms, as soon as a 2 bed is available anywhere let me know and I'll move.

Good in theory, the problem being that social housing tenants do not get a lot of choice. Often, refusing the offer of a property will affect priority on the waiting list, turning down an offer would mean being shunted to the back of the queue, often after several years of waiting.

garyandsandra

@ VALLI we have already asked for a 2 bed house on 3 occasions to be told there is none available!.
It took my mother in law 15 years to get a bungalow because of the shortages bearing in mind she has a disabled son who cant get upstairs and had to have a bed in the living room.

All you are so quick to jump in before asking anything, judging people as you see fit.

We have done everything we can from asking the Council to downsize us, to finding other work. When your in full time work its great, i love those days but untill your out of work through no fault of your own its a different story!!