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Why Is There Not Much Help For Binge Eating Disorder (and if there is, where is it?)

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  • Jox
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    Hi Oopsa, hope you are able to talk to your doc and get some help.....I feel that doctors and the nhs are fantastic when I or a loved one has been in an emergency / life & death type situation (heavy life threatening nosebleeds, appendectomy, heart attack, cancer, child birth etc) but when I or my husband have gone to the doc for feeling low or rubbish and the blood tests and scans are all normal then they are at a loss.

    I don't want to go on anti depressants and docs have suggested that my hubby goes on them too to help him deal with chronic conditions he has, but I prefer to try and find an alternative solution, like exercise, st john's wort, vitamin d, eating more fruit and veg and drinking water, not drinking tea / coffee / alcohol / fizzy drinks, not smoking, not eating cakes and fatty processed foods - just trying to be a natural as possible...of course it depends on the degree of problems and people with depression should seek medical help, but just giving someone drugs just masks the underlying issue in my opinion.

    I'm still ill with an awful cough, I'm not sure what the problem is, i haven't been to the docs, I don't want antibiotics, I took them in October when I had an infection in my womb after a miscarriage, and I've been hearing about the general population's growing resistance to antibiotics...it also gives me thrush and just messes up my body. I'm "lucky" in that I can work from home while I'm ill and I'm watching lots of youtube video diaries which I love.

    This lady lives in Dorset, is very overweight but is trying a fruit and veg diet and I'm up to her day 40 video and she has lost nearly 2 stone and gained so many benefits. She has 101 videos so I'll watch some of those today.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Reach4Raw/videos?sort=da&view=0&flow=grid

    Hope everyone has a good day :)
  • Argh Jox I normally agree with everything you say but this time I have to disagree - antidepressants aren't a cure-all but they enable you to function correctly.

    I detest the stigma of antidepressants. When I had a pending knee op, I took morphine. When I have a kidney infection, I took antibiotics. When I had a bout of depression, I took antidepressants. Horses for courses.

    HBS x
    "I believe in ordinary acts of bravery, in the courage that drives one person to stand up for another."

    "It's easy to know what you're against, quite another to know what you're for."

    #Bremainer
  • Jox
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    Hi heartbreak star, if they helped you then that's great, luckily my depression hasn't been severe enough to warrant me taking them but I would never tell someone not to take them if they feel it's right for them and the doc prescribes them.
  • Thanks for replying HBS and Jox.

    I actually take anti d's currently. I am on 30mg a day of Citalopram and when I don't take it, I certainly know about it!

    That's why I don't think this fatigue is to do with depression because I am quite 'happy' - I like my job (most of the time lol) my marriage is great, my kids are healthy and happy and i have great relationships with the rest of mine/DH families. I also have some fab friends!

    I often think when you are depressed it can be the cause of tiredness etc but this is different because I feel like it's the other way around - the fatigue is the cause of me feeling fed up. Not depressed, just fed up of not finding an answer for it!

    I agree with the stigma re: anti d's..I don't mind telling anyone I take them. Like HBS says, if you had anything else wrong, you would be inclined to take meds.

    Maybe i should print this and show the GP because this probably makes more sense than i will later!!xx
  • Jox - glad to hear you've not been affected severely. Hope you're not affected at all soon!

    Oopsa - Why not print the thread and highlight the bits you want to read out/have the GP read? :)

    HBS x
    "I believe in ordinary acts of bravery, in the courage that drives one person to stand up for another."

    "It's easy to know what you're against, quite another to know what you're for."

    #Bremainer
  • daska
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    edited 12 March 2013 at 4:18PM
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    No No No.

    Do you really think you can survive without any carbohydrate in the diet?

    I hope not.

    But carbs aren't a fundamental necessity. The body manufactures it's own glucose when it's needed.

    It is almost impossible to eat a no-carb diet, not least because it would be incredibly boring by our standards, but the traditional inuit diet was virtually free of carbohydrates, ditto the masai.

    If you're interested then this might be an interesting read for you to start with: http://www.jbc.org/content/87/3/651.full.pdf+html
    Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants - Michael Pollan
    48 down, 22 to go
    Low carb, low oxalate Primal + dairy
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  • Well, I went and he has diagnosed me with ME/CFS.

    We talked in detail and he said because he had eliminated everything else over the course of the years, it can only be pointed at this. I looked at a list of symptoms and I ticked nearly all of them!

    He said there is only one other thing it could possibly be and that is the citalopram but seeing that I suffered before I even went on them, he doesn't think it is that.

    In some ways it's a relief because it explains a LOT of my symptoms over the years. And even though there is no 'cure', I can stop mentally beating myself up for not being able to exercise as vigorously as I think I should be! It explains why I used to feel so low after going to the gym etc.

    I'm not sure what my plan of action is re: managing it but I am still going to continue with my weight loss plan and go for walks regularly. Not sure where else to start!
  • *hugs* at least you have a diagnosis now :)

    HBS x
    "I believe in ordinary acts of bravery, in the courage that drives one person to stand up for another."

    "It's easy to know what you're against, quite another to know what you're for."

    #Bremainer
  • *hugs* at least you have a diagnosis now :)

    HBS x

    Thanks. It actually feels like a relief knowing that there is a real reason even if there is no cure.

    He knows I'm not depressed and that from that point of view, the Citalopram are doing their job.

    I often feel 'down' because I am constantly saying to DH and the kids that I'm tired, sickly or run down and haven't the energy for some things. I kind of feel that they will just think I'm being lazy lol. Tonight as an example, DD decided to read a bed time story and I thought it would be a great idea because I feel so rough. By the tome she had finished it, I could have been sick with tiredness. I need to make her lunch for tomorrow but came downstairs and tidied the toys away and now I'm laid out on the sofa. I shall do the lunch in a little while!!x
  • daska
    daska Posts: 6,212 Forumite
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    Well... That explains a lot!

    One bit of advice that you really must listen to. If it is ME/CFS then you have to play it canny. If you want to beat this you have to reduce your energy expenditure to the minimum needed to avoid crashing and keep it there until you know you're stable. Then you can start doing more. Unfortunately, as I know all too well, kids and ME are a bad combination (DS2 has ASD and sensory processing problems). There is a 'spoon theory' which helps to explain the limitations of energy but I have to say I don't like much, I think it's more like having a lunch allowance that never pays for a full meal so you have to take out a loan at 100% interest per day.
    Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants - Michael Pollan
    48 down, 22 to go
    Low carb, low oxalate Primal + dairy
    From size 24 to 16 and now stuck...
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