Why Is There Not Much Help For Binge Eating Disorder (and if there is, where is it?)

WantToBeSE

oopsadaisydoddle wrote: »

Also I had thought of signing up for the Beyond Chocolate 12 week online course which deals with body image. It's £50 a month for three months so thought that was quite reasonable compared with therapy costs. I am undecided though because I haven't found any reviews yet, apart from those on the website which of course, say it's good.

If anybody has any experience of it, i would be grateful to hear about before I decide to take the plunge.

The Amazon books have got great reviews-how about trying one of them before shelling out £50?
For £50 you could get 1 therapy session?

However, you have nothing to lose by trying the beyond chocolate website.

oopsadaisydoddle

Well I attemped porridge and not sure if I made it right but yuk!

I can't stomach it - i feel sick!

I am gutted - was so hoping I'd like it.

WantToBeSE

oopsadaisydoddle wrote: »

Well I attemped porridge and not sure if I made it right but yuk!

I can't stomach it - i feel sick!

I am gutted - was so hoping I'd like it.

..toast it is then! I cant say i'm a huge fan of porridge either, especially made with water _pale_

margaretclare

Like I said earlier, I'm not necessarily wanting a label - just help - that's why I thought CBT might be the way to go. I have come to realise that my self esteem has a lot to do with it because I've always put my worth down to what I look like/weigh.

It started when i was at school when I was going out with a boy and all of his friends used to call me ugly (was as thin as a rake then so they didn't have that on me)! Then when I was cheated on in a relationship at the end of my teens. Then my son's father left me because 'I didn't do it for him anymore'. Then another ex cheated! My husband is the only person who has ever loved me properly regardless of my size, so I should be happy! I hope that doesn't make me come across as some kind of tart lol!!

All of the times I have tried to lose weight, I have done it thinking that by doing so I'd become more attractive, more worthy.

You've identified the problem, and this is always the first step to finding a solution. With my background in behavioural sciences, what you've written screams to me 'lack of self-esteem, self-worth'. In other words, you know what to do, what healthy eating and a healthy lifestyle is all about, but it's as if you have a little imp inside you - your subconscious mind - which says 'oh no, you're not worth this, get back down to where you belong, be fat and ugly' and you sabotage the whole thing by going on a binge. Then, afterwards, you hate yourself for doing it, and the whole thing goes round in a vicious circle.

The trick will be to break into that circle, and for that, you may need help. I don't mean any form of diet, whether WW, SW or whatever.

Do I make sense?

oopsadaisydoddle

margaretclare wrote: »

You've identified the problem, and this is always the first step to finding a solution. With my background in behavioural sciences, what you've written screams to me 'lack of self-esteem, self-worth'. In other words, you know what to do, what healthy eating and a healthy lifestyle is all about, but it's as if you have a little imp inside you - your subconscious mind - which says 'oh no, you're not worth this, get back down to where you belong, be fat and ugly' and you sabotage the whole thing by going on a binge. Then, afterwards, you hate yourself for doing it, and the whole thing goes round in a vicious circle.

The trick will be to break into that circle, and for that, you may need help. I don't mean any form of diet, whether WW, SW or whatever.

Do I make sense?

I totally get this!

And yes it hits the nail right on the head. I suppose I don't believe I can 'do it'. Realistically I wish I could be happy whatever size I am but I do feel much better and comfortable when I carry less weight.

I do believe the amount of stuff i have tried has contributed to the mess I have become in regards to what I should be eating.

I sometimes wish I could be hypnotised to 'forget' all of the stuff I have learnt about diets over the years. I did try hypnotherapy for weight loss too - had 4 sessions between december and jan but didn't find it helped with the bingeing. I did enjoy the relaxation though.

Jox

Hi oopsadaisy, just wanted to say thanks for starting this thread and to all the posters for their responses, I have the same / similar problem of bingeing, I'm an emotional eater and sugar addict but because of this thread and investigating a low sugar diet I feel more hopeful.

I ate well yesterday and went to the gym, and so far have eaten well today and will probably go to the gym again.

I watched lots of videos on youtube last night (exciting Saturday night for me!) for inspiration (I searched for quitting sugar videos).

The challenge will be tomorrow, as I'll be out the house from 8am to 8pm at work, but I might take some of tonight's dinner with me tomorrow so hopefully that will sustain me.

I'll try to have some porridge in the morning.

The temptations of the coffee machine, chocolate and crisps will be calling me at work....my dream is to eat healthily, not to have wild swings of high/low blood sugar, going for a run in the morning, or at lunch time or after work....instead of dragging myself through the day longing for my bed!

WantToBeSE

If anyone enjoys watching Youtube, there is a lady called Nina V on there, and she does wonderful videos on Binge Eating. She also has a great website called helpforeatingdisorder.com here is the link to her youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/helpfored

daska

oopsadaisydoddle wrote: »

I totally get this!

And yes it hits the nail right on the head. I suppose I don't believe I can 'do it'. Realistically I wish I could be happy whatever size I am but I do feel much better and comfortable when I carry less weight.

I do believe the amount of stuff i have tried has contributed to the mess I have become in regards to what I should be eating.

I sometimes wish I could be hypnotised to 'forget' all of the stuff I have learnt about diets over the years. I did try hypnotherapy for weight loss too - had 4 sessions between december and jan but didn't find it helped with the bingeing. I did enjoy the relaxation though.

It does if you assume that the currently touted, one size fits all, healthy diet (aka way of eating) is the best for you... but your body isn't working normally so why would eating less of what normal people eat work for it?

And you already know losing weight does sod all for your self esteem - you know this because you've already lost a substantial amount of weight and it didn't solve the problem. You felt a bit better but it didn't really do the trick.

Googling low GI meal plans brings up a wealth of results. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=low+gi+meal+plan&rlz=1C1CHTG_enGB485GB485&aq=1&oq=low+GI+meal&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

ILW

WantToBeSE wrote: »

AARRGGHH...i have just had a brief glance at the other answers that you have received and wish i hadnt!
How can people be so..so....aaarrgghh, i cant even work out where to begin.
Telling someone with BED to 'just eat less' is the most rubbish answer EVER. It's like telling an anorexic to 'just start eating', or a drinker to 'just stop drinking'.
I am incredibly angry on your behalf.

Please DONT go on a diet, whether thats with WW, SW, or ANY other diet. Diet are EVIL for people with EDs. What you NEED is Psychotherapy to get t the deep rooted issues that leadyou to binge eat in the first place.

Sending you lots of support (((DAISY))).

Seems pretty good advice to me.

oopsadaisydoddle

ILW wrote: »

Seems pretty good advice to me.

Well you're obviously not very knowledgeable around these issues then because if that advice worked, I wouldn't be here asking for help.

My mum always taught me if you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything maybe you might keep that in mind.

Oh and when I say good, I don't necessarily mean nice. I appreciate that by posting on an open forum, i am inviting responses from all and sundry. However I do believe if you're going to post on something, it should at least be useful!