Why Is There Not Much Help For Binge Eating Disorder (and if there is, where is it?)

oopsadaisydoddle

Thanks again Fire Fox for such a detailed response. I think i will have had xylitol in gum and it gives me wind!! I think I'll just try and avoid sweet things. When i make my cereal bars, it uses a tbsp of homey which I understand still has the same effect on blood sugars as normal sugar. In comparison with the rest of the ingredients, it is a small amount so I may not worry too much about that. The recipe is full of oats and seeds and a small amount of dried.

I have been looking for recipes which would combine the ingredients you mention - I don't suppose you know any recipes or can poont me in the right direction of finding some. I've googled 'low GI whole food recipes'.

Thanks Jox for your suggestions too - i may try some of those! I tried making my own grainy bread as I've heard the store ones are full of additives, however my bread went a bit wrong!!! It was like a house brick!!

thanks also to nettttie and dktreesa and natural skin care!x

Als

oopsadaisydoddle

Does anybody know what grape nuts are and whether they are a healthy whole food or are they full of rubbish? Have googled and it seems they're ok but wasn't sure.

daska

Grape nuts is a breakfast cereal made from wheat and barley. It's GI is higher than table sugar. As far as I'm concerned they're just another carb laden pile of carp that people have been conned into thinking they need on the back of the fat is evil crusade.

You seem convinced you must eat cereals? Why?

oopsadaisydoddle

daska wrote: »

Grape nuts is a breakfast cereal made from wheat and barley. It's GI is higher than table sugar. As far as I'm concerned they're just another carb laden pile of carp that people have been conned into thinking they need on the back of the fat is evil crusade.

You seem convinced you must eat cereals? Why?

I'm not sure? Maybe for the convenience. That's why I was making my bars - I always feel icky if i eat early on so I'd been taking them to work to have when I start.

I only discovered the grape nuts on a site I found with low GI recipes!!

Like I said, was just looking for ideas. I'm Trying to find family friendly recipes or ones that don't need a million ingredients and 3 weeks to prepare.

Also, I suppose it's habit to think of soup and a roll or eggs with toast for breakfast!

adouglasmhor

I saw xylitol mentioned above, anyone who has a dog or cat please be careful it is highly toxic to dogs, cats and possibly ferrets, and causes a massive and possibly fatal insulin drop in them.

http://seattletimes.com/html/tailsofseattle/2018658270_veterinary_qa_why_is_xylitol_so_dangerous_for_dogs_and_cats.html

daska

Yes, it's probably habit, and yes opening a box of cereal is quick and convenient.

Here's a comprehensive GI reference: 'home of the glycemic index'

Here's how I manage

Breakfast: choice of sausages, bacon, oily fish, eggs and cheese. There's half a small box of weetabix on top of the cupboards but it's been there for a few months.

Lunch is a plate of whatever is available in the fridge - boxed up and taken with me if necessary.

Supper: whatever I fancy really just without bread/ rice/ potatos
Steak and celeriac chips
Curry and cauliflower rice
Grilled chicken breasts
Sausage and cauliflower mash (easier and faster than potato!)

Do I cook every day, hell no! I have ME and my 5 year old is a thrillseeking imp with severe sensory problems and probable ASD/ADHD. With the exception of fried eggs I cook in bulk, always enough for at least two main meals, preferably three with the excess being stored in the fridge/freezer as appropriate. I use a slow cooker for stews/dhal etc. and the oven for sausages/bacon - anything to reduce the amount of time/energy that has to be expended.

In the fridge I (almost) always have core basics of:
dark green salad leaves (spinach, romaine etc)
celery
avocado
broccoli
cauliflower
green beans
berries

full fat unhomogenised milk
whipping cream (the only kind you can pretty much rely on to be unhomogenised)
yogurt
butter
goose fat

mayo
caesar dressing
pond water (olive oil and balsamic vinegar)
mustard

sausages/bacon
left over veg/meat from dinner
cheeses
hard boiled eggs
frittata (I make a dozen or more in silicon muffin cases using left overs - great for lunch boxes)

Cupboards: nuts, 90% chocolate, whoopsied veg dried in the dehydrator, coconut oil, ghee, cans of kidney beans etc.

Freezer: frozen meals, berries, veg, cheese (and fishfingers)

on top of that I have whatever caught my eye while I was shopping so different colour veg, bit of pastrami etc.

Unless you live on meals such as pizza then lowering your carbs can be as easy as just leaving out the rice/ potatos/ bread etc. or substituting with a lower GI veg.

suki1964

oopsadaisydoddle wrote: »

Would you say the same to an anorexic?

Or a bulimic?

Why is it different then, just because I don't purge after?

I didn't take the things of MIL - they came with the kids. And yes, once they were there, I ate them.

I agree about your analogy to likening the situation with a drinker...the difference is, if a drinker asks for help - they more often than not get it.

I don't buy stuff for me. The things I have mentioned have been gifts. In fact the turkish delight was a gift for someone else until I ate it.

Actually no we don't

We get AA, which is self funding

WW and from what I can't tell from other diets follow the steps of AA in some shape or form

Over drinker, over eater, we are the same.

We have to learn to control our excess, or die, simple really

nettttie

suki1964 wrote: »

Actually no we don't

We get AA, which is self funding

WW and from what I can't tell from other diets follow the steps of AA in some shape or form

Over drinker, over eater, we are the same.

We have to learn to control our excess, or die, simple really

good insight with as much control as I can master is all I hope for... I think I'm ok! (others may disagree)

Fire_Fox

Anyone who is substantially reducing or eliminating grains, beans and lentils please ensure you eat plenty of nuts and seeds for the minerals and fibre. A couple of tablespoons is unlikely to cut the mustard, depending which nuts and seeds you choose and how much green veg and dairy you eat you may need hundreds of grams to replace starchy whole carbs. Remember that processed meats and cheese are packed with salt and often additives, have in moderation only.

Rather than processed meats try relying much more heavily on fish, seafood, organ meats and organic or omega enriched eggs. I think we have a tendency to associate hunter-gatherer or traditional diets with muscle meat and veggies but in fact there is nothing in land animal meat that is not available elsewhere in the diet, whereas the only sensible source of the essential fatty acids long chain omega-3s is oily fish. The 'out of Africa' maps are interesting too: humans hugged the coastlines for much of our journey around the globe, leaving mollusc shell middens at some ancient sites.

oopsadaisydoddle

suki1964 wrote: »

Actually no we don't

We get AA, which is self funding

WW and from what I can't tell from other diets follow the steps of AA in some shape or form

Over drinker, over eater, we are the same.

We have to learn to control our excess, or die, simple really

My mistake - I thought rehab was available on the nhs.

I have found the local OA group near me and I am interested in this. The only thing that puts me off is the religious aspect. The home page says it's not a religious organisation yet the twelve steps mention 'Him' a lot. I am not at all a religious person so am unsure whether this would benefit me. I think I would feel hypocritical.