Some pensioners will be affected by the 'bedroom tax'

perthperson

There's well over 500 people on the homeless waiting list for one bed/bedsit properties in the area where I live. Probably about 150 suitable properties come up each year.

Own_My_Own

I rent privately, and find all this talk of people becoming homeless quite strange.
Why can't council tenants that are under occupied move to private rental ?

Yes they will need a deposit and a months rent, but this bedroom tax has not been thrust upon them with no notice. They have had time to save.
When ever I have had to move I have had to find the money. And when my children move out I will have to do it again. And when my dd has children, I will buy a fold down sofa, so they can sleep over.

Unfortunately that is live.

Morlock

Dunroamin wrote: »

Personally, I think that more flexibility is exactly what the social housing sector could do with, particularly if it means breaking up many of of the estates where generations of benefit dependent families live.

Morlock wrote: »

Which estates have generations of benefit dependant families living in them?

No answer.

PoorCharleyBear wrote: »

I used to work for DWP, and there were huge estates in the affluent city I worked in where 4-5 names would dominate the claims, per estate. It was easy to see when the kids became old enough to claim in their own right, have kids and move a street away.

Morlock wrote: »

What were the names of these 'huge estates' and where were they?

No answer either.

I can't say that I am surprised by the non-response.

Own_My_Own

Morlock wrote: »

No answer.





No answer either.

I can't say that I am surprised by the non-response.

Beacontree - Dagenham
Wythenshawe - Greater Manchester
Easterhouse - East Glasgow
Bransholme - Kingston upon Hull

Dunroamin

perthperson wrote: »

There's well over 500 people on the homeless waiting list for one bed/bedsit properties in the area where I live. Probably about 150 suitable properties come up each year.

Many people on the waiting list will be working, ineligible for HB and be perfectly happy to rent one of the 2 bed properties being vacated by those who are over occupying. They'll do this because the rents are so cheap compared with those in the private sector and because of the secure tenancies.

Dunroamin

Own_My_Own wrote: »

Beacontree - Dagenham
Wythenshawe - Greater Manchester
Easterhouse - East Glasgow
Bransholme - Kingston upon Hull

Of course, Wythenshawe - I know exactly what you mean!

Morlock

Own_My_Own wrote: »

Beacontree - Dagenham
Wythenshawe - Greater Manchester
Easterhouse - East Glasgow
Bransholme - Kingston upon Hull

So you have listed a few council estates, where is the evidence proving that generations of benefit dependant families live on any of those estates?

Nada666

Morlock wrote: »

You say it is no big deal, yet many housing organisations are predicting a dramatic rise in rent arrears, evictions and resultant homelessness.

So? There are plenty of worthy people willing to take up the bargains the greedy and selfish will be kicked out of. They have had one chance of a decent, cheap home. If they are not happy to behave sensibly then put them on the streets. It is their choice.

Morlock

Nada666 wrote: »

So? There are plenty of worthy people willing to take up the bargains the greedy and selfish will be kicked out of. They have had one chance of a decent, cheap home. If they are not happy to behave sensibly then put them on the streets. It is their choice.

Ian, is that you?

SandraScarlett

joanne79 wrote: »

I so wish I had started my early years differently...I know it's a cop out to say its what I grew up with...but I spent all my child hood watching all the nice things being delivered from a catalogue or as I got older on a credit card etc so when I turned 18 I started down the same path as my mum, and was told at 21 by the citizens advice I should consider bankruptcy...I would love to own my house,I hate the thought I have nothing to leave my children and want to be able to leave them more. Sadly after battling illness and debts my mum took her own life...so that should be a lesson for me in itself...that was 5 years ago when I was 8 months pregnant with my daughter....so guess I just lost my way a bit with everything else.

joanne79 wrote: »

Yes he did so he claims nothing...I know this is my way out,and am looking into maybe full time nights...i would like to do full time days, but don't think I would earn enough to cover nursery fees etc... I do feel a bit of a plonka now for complaining...and know its only us that can change it

joanne79 wrote: »

I don't kniw why dunroamin but feels like you are getting at me? I will be the first to admit that I have not gone about things the right way,and have maybe gone about things the easy way the last 5 years but at times I have had to,after having my daughter and then a near breakdown when my mum took her own life...coupled with helping my sister get off heroine (who is clean and a mum if twins now) FT work maybe has not been on my agenda,I know everyone has ther own issues and I'm not the only one who has been dealt a bad hand.... But I am also trying to turn it around.up until I had my first child,I have always worked,and full time same as everyone else, and plan to again

Hi Joanne . It takes a lot of guts to post on these boards that you were mistaken/wrong/didn't understand something, so hats off to you, or as my grandchildren say "Respect, Man"!

I think it does us all good to have a moan every so often, and, because we can't see the facial reaction of people we are "talking to", and they can't hear the sort of tone we're using when we post, it's easy for things to be misunderstood.

My DH has Alzheimers, and if I'm asked about the symptons, by a neighbour or acquaintance, the first thing I describe is his memory, or lack of it. I have to forcibly restrain myself from throttling the number of people who then reply "Oh, join the club. My memory's awful. I go into another room and forget why I've gone there. I'm the same". No you're bl**dy not! :mad: :mad: :mad:

We are all individuals, and therefore no 2 people have identical problems. When I first started reading the posts about having to pay for a "spare" social housing room, I found myself agreeing with the posters who were unsympathetic. But every case is different.

For example, how can it be morally right for a home that houses a disabled person, with equipment, be it an adult or child, to say that they cannot have their own room, unless it's paid for out of benefits/earnings/savings?

Thank God I live in a 2 bed bungalow, because there is no way I could sleep in the same room as my DH, but not everyone can budget their money affectively, and if they're in social housing, they may need help, from the excellent boards on this site, to find a way to replace their loss of HB.

I wish you all the luck in the world Joanne, and I hope you let us know how you get on. Good Luck!

xx