Green Deal MSE Guide Discussion

PhilD1701

Hi Helen

Prompted by your site and a house I bought last year in need of Green Deal assessment I rang my local Council (Medway), who seemed clueless when I mentioned 'Green Deal' after some informing them of what I was after they gave me a number for 'Warm Front' 0800 316 6011.

Rang that number and an automated voice said it was 'closed and not accepting any more requests/applications...

Baffled? ... Help please...

Phil

rabialiones

captainhindsight wrote: »

Yes any one can claim, it is the Carbon Emissions Reduction Obligation (CERO) part of ECO this applies to all solid walled homes regardless of income and location all solid walled homes qualify. There is more information here.



If you click here you can search for an installer which offers external/internal wall insulation in your area by entering your postcode.


hi, can you have s.w.i. if you have had cavity wall insualtion

mopots

We had a green deal survey done last year. We live in a 1930's semi detached with single glazed leaded Windows and lots of wooden floors. Our boiler is 15 yrs old and while works well with a maintenance plan it is not very efficient. The areas we were looking at were new boiler, double glazing and solar panels. The report said our energy usage was less than other 4bedroom properties in the area!!! I couldn't quite work that out as our bills are just over £2000 a year. We are not suitable for cavity wall insulation as we have no cavity walls. The report said we should either do internal or external wall insulation, external not suitable at front as mainly Windows, roof and garage door. Again internal at front wouldn't work due to mainly Windows. Floor insulation and draught proofing were the next two options. We are already as draught proofed as we can be except the Windows. The boiler, Windows and solar panels came after all these. We have already installed solar panels, have new Windows coming in the next few weeks. Boiler will have to wait. This maybe why most of the money has not been used as you have to do the first things mentioned before adding anything else in!!! Also very few double glazing companies are involved because of the cost in registering and they can make the money anyway.
Rant over.

lstar337

rabialiones wrote: »

hi, can you have s.w.i. if you have had cavity wall insualtion

My guess would be no, because you don't have solid walls.

Solid wall insulation is for solid walls.

mfeb

I recently had an assessment done by NWS as they are recommended by MSE. The chap came out and said we would hugely benefit from solid wall insulation, our house was built in 1880 we heat it with oil no gas in the village ) and burn coal on the fire and its still cold !!. So we organised for their surveyed to come out and get the ball rolling.
During chatting to us he explained that NWS no longer provide funding for this work to be carried out and we would only be entitled to approx £4k cash back on a job that will cost circa £12k. The balance would be up to us to find. They no long do window replacement but they would give us a free bio mass boiler ( as long as we buy all the fuel from them for the next 7yrs ) however a bio mas boiler is only energy efficient against our existing boiler if the house hasn't got the solid wall insulation.
So it would seem to me that NWS are not wanting to install insulation but instead to sell 7yrs worth of fuel for bio mass boilers. Not very green deal at all. Why have they been recommended
by Martin

captainhindsight_2

rabialiones wrote: »

captainhindsight wrote: »

Yes any one can claim, it is the Carbon Emissions Reduction Obligation (CERO) part of ECO this applies to all solid walled homes regardless of income and location all solid walled homes qualify. There is more information here.



If you click here you can search for an installer which offers external/internal wall insulation in your area by entering your postcode.


hi, can you have s.w.i. if you have had cavity wall insualtion

nope

captainhindsight_2

mfeb wrote: »

I recently had an assessment done by NWS as they are recommended by MSE. The chap came out and said we would hugely benefit from solid wall insulation, our house was built in 1880 we heat it with oil no gas in the village ) and burn coal on the fire and its still cold !!. So we organised for their surveyed to come out and get the ball rolling.
During chatting to us he explained that NWS no longer provide funding for this work to be carried out and we would only be entitled to approx £4k cash back on a job that will cost circa £12k. The balance would be up to us to find. They no long do window replacement but they would give us a free bio mass boiler ( as long as we buy all the fuel from them for the next 7yrs ) however a bio mas boiler is only energy efficient against our existing boiler if the house hasn't got the solid wall insulation.
So it would seem to me that NWS are not wanting to install insulation but instead to sell 7yrs worth of fuel for bio mass boilers. Not very green deal at all. Why have they been recommended
by Martin

Hi with the solid wall insulation you have a couple of options the first one is to see how much can get funded through ECO and just pay the rest, the alternative is to pay the whole cost of the install and get the cash back of up to £4,000 and see which one works out better.

If your on oil, i would take advantage of the RHI (renewable heat incentive) if you can afford it you should buy the boiler. Whether this is a biomass boiler, ground source heat pump, air source heat pump etc because the RHI payments are very generous.

The reason they are not recommending the solid wall insulation is because this will reduce the heat demand of the property and thus reduce the RHI payments from the 'free' biomass boiler which is what would be paying for the boiler.

It sounds like they are offering something very similar to the rent a roof schemes for solar panels but with a boiler which may lead to issues later on.

chillybilly

hi everyone
I have been trying to get this done from the start and have been on numerous waiting lists but to no avail I registered under the original scheme and was told we would get it for free but nothing happened we kept getting fobbed off and put back then told they wasn't in our area but next door was having there's done but they were housing !!! and next street were getting them done and they weren't even old houses but they were council so the council swallowed up all the funding getting there own properties done how appropriate then we were told they couldn't put scaffolding up but again next door could we are now on eco scheme with several companies but still keep getting put off and back always blaming the government funding is anyone else getting these problems please help just want to keep my house warm without costing fortune cant afford bills much more
many thanks

dalebid

Hi I also had an assement from nws, who now have no funding for their green deal type loans, though they said that this may change in May. I can't get the external wall insulation amongst other measures without paying for the work myself. has any one actually got any work done through the green deal recently in the midlands? thanks
also I have looked at the government site for info, the cashback document states you have to have the work done within three months (six for solid wall) to claim.

didactylos_2

All I want is to find someone local to us and get an assessment. In this age should be simple. Postcode search should do the trick. Almost all supposed 'directories' simply link to the dreadful Government website which shows hundreds of assessors, in random or alphabetical order, and no way other than looking at each in turn, of discerning where they work.....



Roger