Yoof need a reality check

moneyinmypocket

I was talking to some yoof about life and I have come to the conclusion that they don't live in real world. For example they go to school (which is sooo much eaiser than it used to be), go onto uni (which again is not what it used to be) then expect to have latest gadgets, beer money, holidays abroad - I honestly don't think the yoof can handle modern day life, they don't have the hard graft that the boomers had.

Mr._Pricklepants

Yoof also should learn that it's not polite to fiddle with their iPhones at the table.

Happy Boomer Family:

(as you can see, no iPhones)

Yoof of today:

aliasojo

moneyinmypocket wrote: »

I was talking to some yoof about life and I have come to the conclusion that they don't live in real world. For example they go to school (which is sooo much eaiser than it used to be), go onto uni (which again is not what it used to be) then expect to have latest gadgets, beer money, holidays abroad - I honestly don't think the yoof can handle modern day life, they don't have the hard graft that the boomers had.

Even if all that were so, surely the generation before them are the ones at fault?

People develop in certain ways as a result of their upbringing and surroundings.

No point in disparaging someone for being a product of the environment they grew in.

kabayiri

I can just see the OP tucking into a fresh pack of werthers originals as he posts this.

"In my day it were all fields and freshly baked hovis"

Moby

aliasojo wrote: »

Even if all that were so, surely the generation before them are the ones at fault?

People develop in certain ways as a result of their upbringing and surroundings.

No point in disparaging someone for being a product of the environment they grew in.

Bang on target!

Jennifer_Jane

kabayiri wrote: »

I can just see the OP tucking into a fresh pack of werthers originals as he posts this.

"In my day it were all fields and freshly baked hovis"

omg lol yes - does any1 remember the tiny Hovis loaves you could buy on your way home from school? Rolls but shaped like ordinary Hovis loaves. Mmm. And only cost a penny each. Yay.

Also, we are moneysavers and looking after our teeth, so buy Aldi's sugarfree butterscotch sweets rather than Werthers Originals.

Generali

We are all products of 2 things: nature and nurture.

Either genetics have got worse or parenting has. Either way, I blame the parents.

Jennifer_Jane

My own personal gripe(s) about anyone younger than myself:

1. It's "Different From" not "Different To" (actually my Father's pet gripe).
2. No table manners: (you should, ideally) not hold knife like a pen; put down knife and fork whilst chewing food, not waving everything around in the air; only use knife as a cutting tool, not a pushing tool (I don't do that at home though).
3. Stand up straight, shoulders down and back, head in the air.
4. It's not "Me and ... " did something. It's "John and I". Put yourself second in the sentence.

No, I'm not Victorian, I was born 46 years after she died - but I'm sure people would be happier if they at least walked upright.

dryhat

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

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4. It's not "Me and ... " did something. It's "John and I". Put yourself second in the sentence.

"Putting yourself second" is not "the rule"

It depends on the context.

For example .... "The money from the sale of the house was given to me and John" is grammatically correct.

But ... "The money from the sale of the house was given to John and I" is incorrect.

aliasojo

Generali wrote: »

We are all products of 2 things: nature and nurture.

Either genetics have got worse or parenting has. Either way, I blame the parents.

I've always been of the belief that parental input (or lack of it) is the singularly most important part of how a person turns out.

BUT....we have become the 'what's the point' society now. And that is playing an increasing part of what we use to shape our thoughts. Imo.

Take your average Joe, raised by average parents. At one time, this family would have strived for betterment. Uni qualifications were not necessarily the aim, but people expected to get work, gain trade qualifications or even just start in a basic position somewhere with the expectation of working their way up.

They would save for what was needed, they expected to help each successive generation through inheritance, they saw grafting as a way to a richer (not necessarily 'financially' richer) future.

These days, your average Joe has fewer opportunities. Employers seek to be as cost efficient as possible, sometimes financially better for them to provide 2 part time jobs than 1 full time. Encouraged by Government policy that helps shore up poor pay.

People wonder why there is any point in saving, their money will only be taken away in their old age if they need care, despite perhaps having paid in all their working lives and not requiring help from the system in this time.

They perceive unfairness in life. Fat cat companies avoiding tax bills, company CEO's being given million pound bonuses and handouts despite running companies badly, changes in health care, policing, education which seem ok on paper but the reality is that it's only an exercise in massaged figures which helps no-one but those in Government.

Each successive issue that affects average Joe only adds to the 'what's the point' mentality.

Society no longer takes pride in itself. Moral standards have fallen. It's survival of the fittest now. Or the most cunning.

Don't blame the young. We've made them what they are, through more than simply lacklustre parenting.

Jennifer_Jane

dryhat wrote: »

"Putting yourself second" is not "the rule"

It depends on the context.

For example .... "The money from the sale of the house was given to me and John" is grammatically correct.

But ... "The money from the sale of the house was given to John and I" is incorrect.

Of course your second example is grammatically incorrect ("...given to John and I"). Yes, of course.

I am unaware of the grammatical rules concerning the first example: it is just better manners to put yourself second.

This isn't the "Me" vs "I" argument. It is simply that I was taught (at my secondary modern) to always put myself last. It's interesting that you didn't appear to see that that was the point.