Yoof need a reality check

ukcarper

toby3000 wrote: »

For one thing, the original poster was not talking to some young people the other day, he's just spouting some cliches. I strongly suspect that disposable income for young people was actually higher in the 1960s.

As to Gap Years, I suppose it could be said I'm on one (though I'm 28), and here in Australia every European I've met is working. In fact, since you can easily make £1500-2000 a month, it would make perfect economic sense for all young people to come here for their 2 years prior to uni!

Only because they didn't go to university ,for those on apprenticeships pay was a lot less than the minimum wage is to today probably equivalent to about £2 an hour. Admittedly there was less to spend it on.

That said I don't believe there is much difference between either generation not all boomers worked hard and saved and not all young people are lazy and waste money.

The times are so different it is very difficult to compare.

AS for gap years so long as they accept it is going to delay the time they can buy house etc I can't see any reason why if they can afford to do it they shouldn't.

　

ViolaLass

When I took a gap year at the age of 18, I didn't consider that it would mean buying a house 12 months later than if I didn't have a gap year. At 18 I didn't care about when I would buy a house. I've never bemoaned it since (hadn't even occurred to me until this thread) and I had some fantastic experiences that year (got work experience, travelled, studied etc) which I funded myself.

Incidentally, I'm a teacher who has never accepted any state benefits (beyond student loan) so I fail to see in what way my year out from education hurt either me or society.

(I took two gap years after finishing university too - shock horror!)

Carl31

ViolaLass wrote: »

When I took a gap year at the age of 18, I didn't consider that it would mean buying a house 12 months later than if I didn't have a gap year. At 18 I didn't care about when I would buy a house. I've never bemoaned it since (hadn't even occurred to me until this thread) and I had some fantastic experiences that year (got work experience, travelled, studied etc) which I funded myself.

Incidentally, I'm a teacher who has never accepted any state benefits (beyond student loan) so I fail to see in what way my year out from education hurt either me or society.

(I took two gap years after finishing university too - shock horror!)

Id ignore the comments on here. Its just old people moaning

Carl31

GeorgeHowell wrote: »

I'm agreeing with the OPs view that in some ways many "yoof" cannot deal with modern life, with a sense of reality. That's not healthy for society on a number of levels, one of which may turn out to be increased state dependency. So yes it does matter.

I think you have it the wrong way round

Many old people can't accept that life is lived differently now, maybe even jealous that 'yoof' have a greater opportunity to live their lives than they dared to when they were young

CWSmith

Carl31 wrote: »

I think you have it the wrong way round

Many old people can't accept that life is lived differently now, maybe even jealous that 'yoof' have a greater opportunity to live their lives than they dared to when they were young

:rotfl:That is so wrong ............... I'm not exactly ancient, but no spring chicken either, and I would HATE to be young now!

Life was infinitely easier, freer, far less complicated and so much more enjoyable when I was young (in the 1970's to be precise).

I feel desperately sorry for today's "yoof". What on earth is there to be jealous of???

Generali

Fella wrote: »

Even worse is when people make the same mistake in reverse, such is in "Run To You" by Bryan Adams:

"Sheeeeee says her love for me, could never die
But that'd change if she ever found out about you and I"

The I/Me rule is an easy one too, since all anyone has to do is take out the "you and" (or whatever) part of the sentence, then it's obvious which to use.

So "The money was given to me and John" becomes "The money was given to me" which is obviously corrrect. And "That'd change if she ever found out about you and I" becomes the glaringly wrong "That'd change if she ever found out about I" which would only be correct if it was The Wurzels singing it.

The trouble is, the alternative version would be worse:

"Sheeeeee says her love for me, could never dee
But that'd change if she ever found out about you and mee"

Maybe Hamish could sing that but it would sound very odd in Canadish.

ukcarper

Carl31 wrote: »

I think you have it the wrong way round

Many old people can't accept that life is lived differently now, maybe even jealous that 'yoof' have a greater opportunity to live their lives than they dared to when they were young

I think you should change that to say A few. You could also add a few young people like to blame the older generation for the problems they now face.

As you say life is very different now and I certainly would not like to be leaving school and trying to find a decent job now.

moneyinmypocket

I am not jealous of yoof either - the boomers will always win over yoof. I remember once when I was at a pub quiz and some cocky students walked in, the boomers ate them for breakfast. We all stood at the exit afterwards pointing with are hands saying "who are ya who are ya"

GeorgeHowell

There's a good article in today's paper about internet fanatics who routinely personally attack and abuse anyone who disagrees with them. Don't we know it ! Of course I only see their poisonous, ageist garbage now and again when someone re-posts it.

lippy1923

moneyinmypocket wrote: »

I am not jealous of yoof either - the boomers will always win over yoof. I remember once when I was at a pub quiz and some cocky students walked in, the boomers ate them for breakfast. We all stood at the exit afterwards pointing with are hands saying "who are ya who are ya"

lol and I remember me and some other yoofs going to a work pub quiz. When it came to the music and picture round, we owned the oldies!..... but we didn't stand around afterwards shouting and pointing. Thats just bad sport