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Yoof need a reality check

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Carl31 wrote: »
    Id ignore the comments on here. Its just old people moaning

    I would never tell the young not to grab whatever opportunities they can.

    If it does delay your start on a career by a year so what. I doubt it is going to be the make or break in your fortunes. I think the experience can be beneficial.

    What I think the a concern is that those with limited hope just come back a scrounge when they could be using their time more beneficially getting education, skills etc.

    Arguably if they are to be perpetual scroungers at least they will have missed a year on benefits.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Carl31 wrote: »
    I think you have it the wrong way round

    Many old people can't accept that life is lived differently now, maybe even jealous that 'yoof' have a greater opportunity to live their lives than they dared to when they were young

    Actually I think many of today's youth know that the baby boomer generation had a better time than they do.

    The boomers pretty much invented modern youth culture in the sense of it being significantly differentiated from that of the older generations. The boomers' parents were probably shocked by some of the cultural changes they witnessed among their children. But looking at today's youth the boomer reaction is mostly a shrug and a "been there, seen it, done it" (though I must admit if there is truth in the alleged prevalence of so-called sexting and similar practices among teenagers, including under-age ones, that is shocking)

    Boomers also had the advantage of generally not being spoiled by their parents and mostly growing up to know the value of money and the need to live within means. But in some ways they have messed up in bringing up their own children by not passing on these traits, making life too easy for them as they grew up, and producing a generation that to a significant extent does not seem to know how to deny itself anything.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

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  • CWSmith
    CWSmith Posts: 451 Forumite
    Actually I think many of today's youth know that the baby boomer generation had a better time than they do.

    The boomers pretty much invented modern youth culture in the sense of it being significantly differentiated from that of the older generations. The boomers' parents were probably shocked by some of the cultural changes they witnessed among their children. But looking at today's youth the boomer reaction is mostly a shrug and a "been there, seen it, done it" (though I must admit if there is truth in the alleged prevalence of so-called sexting and similar practices among teenagers, including under-age ones, that is shocking)

    Boomers also had the advantage of generally not being spoiled by their parents and mostly growing up to know the value of money and the need to live within means. But in some ways they have messed up in bringing up their own children by not passing on these traits, making life too easy for them as they grew up, and producing a generation that to a significant extent does not seem to know how to deny itself anything.

    I agree with much of that, but it's not the whole story. When my kids were growing up, in the 1980's, everything seem to change. There was a great shift in expectation for one thing.

    Thankfully, my kids have grown up with a strong work ethic, an excellent education and an abundance of moral fibre. What they lack is independence. Even now, in their early 30's, they phone mum and dad constantly to ask what are (to my mind) the daftest questions. How do you do this? How do I do that? It never seems to end.

    I left home at 16 and (despite being a spoilt only child) was from that point on completely independent. I worked everything out for myself. I was reluctant to tell my parents anything, or not after telling the oldies that I was (at 18) going to marry a hells angel. The look on mum's face was a picture ...........!:rotfl:
  • CWSmith wrote: »
    I agree with much of that, but it's not the whole story. When my kids were growing up, in the 1980's, everything seem to change. There was a great shift in expectation for one thing.

    Thankfully, my kids have grown up with a strong work ethic, an excellent education and an abundance of moral fibre. What they lack is independence. Even now, in their early 30's, they phone mum and dad constantly to ask what are (to my mind) the daftest questions. How do you do this? How do I do that? It never seems to end.

    I left home at 16 and (despite being a spoilt only child) was from that point on completely independent. I worked everything out for myself. I was reluctant to tell my parents anything, or not after telling the oldies that I was (at 18) going to marry a hells angel. The look on mum's face was a picture ...........!:rotfl:

    Lol: I get just the opposite. Ever since I left home my parents keep phoning me to ask basic questions - especially if it is anything to to with their computer or car.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Lol: I get just the opposite. Ever since I left home my parents keep phoning me to ask basic questions - especially if it is anything to to with their computer or car.

    I have been left home 25 years and it just gets more demanding, concierge, taxi, odd job man, financial adviser, internet go between, gardener etc..

    My dad always said he wanted to live long enough, to be a nuisance to his children, to pay em back.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • CWSmith
    CWSmith Posts: 451 Forumite
    Never had that problem ............. home computers weren't invented then! Nor mobiles .............. it was bliss!
  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
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    Gap years,bumming round,pizzing it up the wall its all fine.

    Except todays generation want straight off,what mum and dad took years to achieve / acquire.....
    Official MR B fan club,dont go............................
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    ess0two wrote: »
    Gap years,bumming round,pizzing it up the wall its all fine.

    Except todays generation want straight off,what mum and dad took years to achieve / acquire.....

    Evidence?.
  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    ViolaLass wrote: »
    Evidence?.


    Lol,really..

    I could trawl up 1000 threads whereby many baulk at the idea of buying a flat or terrace as a first home.
    Official MR B fan club,dont go............................
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    ess0two wrote: »
    Lol,really..

    I could trawl up 1000 threads whereby many baulk at the idea of buying a flat or terrace as a first home.

    Evidence that these are the same who take gap years and are '!!!!ing it up the wall'?

    Strong enough evidence to make such a sweeping generalisation?

    I took a gap year and my first house is a terrace. Proves nothing.

    Some young people today are amazing. I know, I teach them.
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