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Petrol Threat To Cons Chances
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Hey come on, I thought you liked 'facts'. If you are going to reply to me then at least answer my original question. Who introduced the fuel duty escalator in the first place? or is that one of those inconvenient facts?According to Treasury figures from November 2012, had Labour remained in power and kept up its 'let's play tree-huggers' facade, petrol would now be 10p per litre more expensive than it is under the Coalition.0 -
It's called democracy and it is employed via the first past the post system. It' the same system we have had for donkeys years and if you don't like it, you are perfectly welcome to move to another country of your choice.I'm not implying it. I'm stating it as a fact. Whether they are better or worse than before is a moot point but what is undeniable is that in the past they at least had some level of support. This is now fast dwindling, so by what right do these jackasses seek to rule us?0 -
Time stop just relying on oil & get on with a fracking alternative.
Yes, the Americans just pushed full steam ahead on shale gas, now its producing already. How real are the uk fears about quakes, landslips and other consequential issues or is it a case of one crack or tremor and its down tools?0 -
It's called democracy and it is employed via the first past the post system. It' the same system we have had for donkeys years and if you don't like it, you are perfectly welcome to move to another country of your choice.
Being offered a choice three more or less identical clones, parachuted into a gerrymandered constituency by their party offices, who then proceed to lie about their intentions, is not a democracy. And it is even less of one when they can, between them, scramble together a fraction of the potential votes.
They may have told you it is one and you may have believed them. But it is not.0 -
DecentLivingWage wrote: »Yes, the Americans just pushed full steam ahead on shale gas, now its producing already. How real are the uk fears about quakes, landslips and other consequential issues or is it a case of one crack or tremor and its down tools?
In case it escapes you it is 75 times the size of the England. It only has 6 times the population, has only 8% of the population density.
Basically they have a lot more they can screw up. If they do I don't care too much, they can always sue themselves.
If they screw up here it could be a lot more catastrophic."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
DecentLivingWage wrote: »
None of that matters - how will voters feel on election day? How will they even get there? Whats left in their wallets/purses/housekeeping accounts? Thats all that matters on that one day - no outright win for Dave and Goves silly plans, eu ref all of it is binned! Petrol price increases could finish many lower middle class families off, what with travel to work'school/childminders - they just havent got it to spend!
Obama lost 26 house seats mid term and was more or less written off a 1 term president. Just as bad for Reagan in his first 1982 mid term, but he like Obama won a thumping victory 2 years later.
As long as employment and unemployment carry on the current trend you will likely get a Tory win.0 -
You are wrong. People have short attention spans but not that short. They know that a vote for Labour is a vote for the same old same old - the same old lies, the same old corruption - even the same old faces.
Had you been out of power for ten years you might have got away with it. But you haven't been. People are faced with the vile Cameron, the imbecile Clegg, or the smirking halfwit Milliband and sooner or later the miserable turnout at elections is going to catch up with the lot of you.
The democratic deficit will be too extreme to ignore. Then we'll have some fun.
you forget to say that by 2015 the tories wont have won an election for 23 years,a period in which labour have won 30 -
does that mean it's the Conservatives' turn to win the next three elections?
In 1997 Labour had not won for 23 years and the 1974 was a minority government as I recall. That's the way it goes sometimes. Somebody comes along who strikes a chord with the electorate, right or wrong, and stays around for quite a while. Then they are forced to hand over to a plonker and it all goes pear-shaped. There is nobody around like that at the moment in any party, so office changing hands frequently, minority governments, coalitions etc might be what we see for some time to come. The electorate hates weak indecisive leaders and they routinely get the boot if someone marginally better is on offer. Kinnock could not even manage to oust Major, but Blair did so at a stroll. Nobody could unseat Blair, but Cameron seemed a marginally better proposition than Brown (not difficult). Will Milliband be seen as a better prospect than Cameron by 2015 ? Certainly not a foregone conclusion.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
Crude oil (and how we pay for it and dollars) left out of the reporting on petrol price setting in the media today - except one small mention on bbc news channel this morning - in case mention of the falling pound might scare the horses...0
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