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AltheHibby

ILW, do you know that clamping is classed as extortion, ie a criminal act in Scotland? That means clampers are criminals under Scots law and you are saying they are a good answer to so-called problems!

ILW

AltheHibby wrote: »

ILW, do you know that clamping is classed as extortion, ie a criminal act in Scotland? That means clampers are criminals under Scots law and you are saying they are a good answer to so-called problems!

Clamping is illegal now. I was just recounting what happened to my workplace a few years ago. For the people who were paying to park there, it was a positive thing.

Guys_Dad

Stroma wrote: »

Because they are sold a line like this

'We will sort out your parking problems, and ensure you comply with the Equality Act 2010'

Then they realise like Somerfield v Parking Eye how disastrous that is

Thanks for that bit, Stroma. Just spent half an hour reading the court summary here http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1338.html

Parking Eye, as you indicated, won the case. However, there is a nasty bit in the original case that the presiding judge made and the Court of Appeal seemed to accept.

I am referring to paragraphs 3, 5 & 6. The rest of the case was legal arguments around whether Somerfield could cancel the contract as Parking Eye had exceeded its agreed contract terms.

However, paragraph 11 (iv) is an interesting one and for those who may be going down a POPLA or court route, ascertaining the exact contract between the landowner and the PPC cound be crucial.

"iv) In any event neither ParkingEye nor Somerfield actually had any settled intention of issuing legal proceedings if the money was not paid. The contract provided by Schedule 2 that if the registered keeper did not pay after a fourth letter, no further action would be taken but detailed records of non-payers and persistent offenders would be stored. If Somerfield decided to sue ParkingEye was to assist."

It was because the PPC didn't follow that bit in bold that Somerfield cancelled the contract illegaly.

As I said, fascinating reading, albeit with a sting in the opening.

AltheHibby

ILW, seeing criminals (by the Scottish definition) ripping people off made businesses happy? Those businesses don't deserve to survive.

ILW

AltheHibby wrote: »

ILW, seeing criminals (by the Scottish definition) ripping people off made businesses happy? Those businesses don't deserve to survive.

The only people that got clamped were those that were parking on other peoples property. There was no deception or trickery, the signs were massive and could not be missed. Anybody that got clamped knew the risk they were taking. Why is that such a problem?

Coupon-mad

Did you never have delivery drivers?

Taxi drivers arriving for a pick-up or drop-off?

New customers who didn't know the system?

New staff members - or their relatives coming to pick them up?

People arriving for a job interview?

For Gawd's sake - those crims who called themselves clampers would clamp ANY vehicle, any excuse. You are deluding yourself if you think there were no innocent victims.

ILW

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Did you never have delivery drivers?

Taxi drivers arriving for a pick-up or drop-off?

New customers who didn't know the system?

New staff members - or their relatives coming to pick them up?

People arriving for a job interview?

For Gawd's sake - those crims who called themselves clampers would clamp ANY vehicle, any excuse. You are deluding yourself if you think there were no innocent victims.

Truly never had a problem, anyone coming to visit was warned. Any body that came for an interview and chose to ignore an enormous sign saying "do not park without a permit" is not the type you would want to employ.
Maybe the company we used were different from the majority, but it worked fine.
There was a pick up/drop off point at the front of the building which was no restricted. The trouble area was about 50 spaces at the rear down a slip road.

esmerobbo

ILW wrote: »

Any body that came for an interview and chose to ignore an enormous sign saying "do not park without a permit" is not the type you would want to employ.

So a permit was available to an interviewee???

Here is a prime example of clampers, the ambulance was delivering a kidney transplant patient!!!!