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We WILL get an EU referendum
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Of course there won't, and Cameron knows it.
This is just a political ploy, a futile attempt to win back defectors form UKIP and keep them in the running for the next election.
It's not going to work though.
There are far more votes in the centre than on the far right, and cameron has just hammered the final nail in the coffin of Tory chances for winning in 2015.
So why would you want to be part of a group who basically dictate the state of play regardless of how it effects countries? (look at the PIGS) Why would you want to vote for a political party which states, basically, that democracy is not in the national interest, and portrays the current leader as weak for offering a vote?!
I know you don't want to be out of the EU, but thats why there will be an "in" checkbox for you to tick.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Basically, after being so pro tory before the coalition took power, you've turned around and stated that basically you won't vote for them again, as they are offering the people a say.
No.
I won't vote for them again because they are staggeringly incompetent.
As I keep trying to tell you Graham, this referendum nonsense is just silly political posturing. If they grew a spine and tackled the real economic problems facing the country, instead of pandering to Daily Fail readers, they'd have a chance.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
The reason the Tories won't win next election is not just down to their incompetence..........I can see almost every liberal vote going to labour
What's liberal about denying free speech and choice?
I've never really understood this, especially from those who campaign for it, but campaign against it when they don't agree.
It's the height of hypocrisy really.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »No.
I won't vote for them again because they are staggeringly incompetent.
As I keep trying to tell you Graham, this referendum nonsense is just silly political posturing. If they grew a spine and tackled the real economic problems facing the country, instead of pandering to Daily Fail readers, they'd have a chance.
So who are you going to vote for?
The party you are on here suggesting were totally and utterly incompetent and inept? I.e., labour?
And you keep trying to shout lots at me. Doesn't mean I have to swallow it. Lets face it, you said cameron would never offer a referendum, so i was being stupid wishing it. Well here we are.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »So who are you going to vote for?
The party you are on here suggesting were totally and utterly incompetent and inept? I.e., labour?
No idea.
I'll probably hold my nose and vote SNP.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »as they are offering the people a say.
They are offering up to try to help them get re- elected.
It won't happen whatever.
They will weasel out of it - can't be trusted (any of them)."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »No idea.
I'll probably hold my nose and vote SNP.
What, and find yourself a small country, struggling to join the EU club?! After all you have said about the SNP!?
LOL, knock yerself out. You do amuse me Hamish.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »What's liberal about denying free speech and choice?
I've never really understood this, especially from those who campaign for it, but campaign against it when they don't agree.
It's the height of hypocrisy really.
What are you saying ?
That the Tories are the only vote to cast for a referendum ?
or that a referendum without knowing the wording to be used ,will be a sign of democracy in action and working ?0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »They are offering up to try to help them get re- elected.
It won't happen whatever.
They will weasel out of it - can't be trusted (any of them).
I don't think they'd be able to wriggle out of this one, with the way it's being done. Doing so would call for an instant election, which would be pointless really.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »you said cameron would never offer a referendum, so i was being stupid wishing it. Well here we are.
No I didn't.
I said there won't be a referendum, and even if there is, we'd vote to stay in the EU.
That hasn't changed.
The chances of a Tory win, and hence referendum, are still zero.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0
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