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We WILL get an EU referendum

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  • Fella wrote: »
    Really? Who would that be then? How would a moron like you even begin to guess who I socialise with?

    I didn't guess. You told us.
    Fella wrote: »
    I don't think I've ever met a single person who was passionate about staying in.

    And please be nice to all Moneysavers. Even when you can't keep up.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    I guess most of us tend to socialise with like kind, in the main. And there's no point in bringing up political matters in social settings unless it is certain that everybody present can cope with differing views without taking umbrage.

    That doesn't mean we are blind to what goes on. I would not knowingly let the kind of thick, mindless, mouthie lefties who are obsessed with class resentment, envy, grievance, and the desire to get something for nothing through my front door. But that doesn't mean I don't know they exist and where they are coming from. The left loves to portray their opposition as Colonel Blimps, but for the most part it is not the case.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I didn't guess. You told us.



    And please be nice to all Moneysavers. Even when you can't keep up.


    Spare me your passive-agressive tosh. Don't make snide little digs from the sidelines then whine when you get a reaction.
  • Fella wrote: »
    Spare me your passive-agressive tosh. Don't make snide little digs from the sidelines then whine when you get a reaction.

    Are you still here?
    Nobody's whining, I was explaining the basic forum rules to you. You can always check them out through the Forum Etiquette link higher up the page.
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Sorry, couldn't care less about sticking to the letter of the law re forum etiquette. If you act like a tw*t & have a dig at me I'll probably respond in a way you don't like. You do have the option of avoiding it by not acting like a tw*t. I presume.

    Since this could go on awhile & I suspect you're the kind of person who needs to have the last word, feel free to have it, I won't respond to you further regardless.
  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
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    .... But overall I support the approach being taken because there are divided opinions and time should be allowed for the EU to come to its senses and for the issues to be widely aired.
    Blair told BBC Radio 4's The World at One: "It reminds me a bit of the Mel Brooks comedy Blazing Saddles where the sheriff says at one point as he holds a gun to his own head: 'If you don't do what I want I'll blow my brains out.' You want to watch out that one of the 26 [other EU member states] doesn't just say: 'OK, go ahead.'" (source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/jan/23/tony-blair-cameron-eu-gun )

    Let's hope that the EU does indeed come to its senses and let's also remember that the UK is for the time being part of that EU which you hope comes to its senses.
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    ValHaller wrote: »
    Let's hope that the EU does indeed come to its senses and let's also remember that the UK is for the time being part of that EU which you hope comes to its senses.

    The EU coming to its senses will comprise reforming itself and/or coming up with an accommodation that the British people can live with. The UK coming to its senses will comprise getting out altogether if it does not.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The EU coming to its senses will comprise reforming itself and/or coming up with an accommodation that the British people can live with. The UK coming to its senses will comprise getting out altogether if it does not.
    The EU coming to its senses may be by saying "We don't want cherry picking - let the Brits blow their brains out"
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,557 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    The EU coming to its senses will comprise reforming itself and/or coming up with an accommodation that the British people can live with. The UK coming to its senses will comprise getting out altogether if it does not.


    I have great doubts that there will be any significant EU reform there are far too many vested interests.

    Didn't a certain Mr T Blair give back our rebate, something akin to £9 billion to date, in return he was supposed to get reform of the farm subsidy scheme... that money would be rather useful now, but no sign of any reform.

    Even the MEPs cant do anything, last year they voted to stop the somewhat wasteful monthly move between Strasbourg and Brussels. It costs around £200 million every year for this move.

    France complained to the commission which stepped in and said the move would continue...

    Examples of waste are numerous but as I said far too many with fingers in the pie for it to change
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • ValHaller wrote: »
    "let the Brits blow their brains out"

    More than a few on this forum would like to see exactly that.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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