"Brilliant" tooth whitening system

Toothsmith

johnboyle007 wrote: »

Standard of care significantly higher than in England . standard of hygeine much higher than in England. Standard of interest in the patients much much higher than in England.

How are you measuring this?

Frequent_Flyer_UK

Toothsmith wrote: »

How are you measuring this?

I have no objective measure on how to rate hygeine etc it is a subjective comparison with my Dentist here in Derbyshire

Cleanliness -- the building was purpose built lab not a converted house. Everything was spotless. Patients had to wear overshoes before going into the room with the dentist

Patient Care - the Dentist spoke withyou explained the treatments and why they were doing it someting never happened withthe various Dentists I have had. Yes I know I should ask and I often did but they offered the advice they did not have to be asked

Equipment - the equipment used seemed much more modern than that used by my Dentist. Use of small cameras to show you th einside of your mouth - x rays instantly available on monitor.

Atmosphere- the Dentist seemed to know their patients and were talking with them on a friendly basis not on an aloof basis.

Sorry these are subjective in tone and that the offices may be over ran by various germs but I can only compare with what I experience in UK and what I saw there

TBeckett100

my toothstrips came from the US today, will let you know how close i get from the back of the fridge to the colur of the fridge door.

Toothsmith

johnboyle007 wrote: »

I have no objective measure on how to rate hygeine etc it is a subjective comparison with my Dentist here in Derbyshire

Cleanliness -- the building was purpose built lab not a converted house. Everything was spotless. Patients had to wear overshoes before going into the room with the dentist

Patient Care - the Dentist spoke withyou explained the treatments and why they were doing it someting never happened withthe various Dentists I have had. Yes I know I should ask and I often did but they offered the advice they did not have to be asked

Equipment - the equipment used seemed much more modern than that used by my Dentist. Use of small cameras to show you th einside of your mouth - x rays instantly available on monitor.

Atmosphere- the Dentist seemed to know their patients and were talking with them on a friendly basis not on an aloof basis.

Sorry these are subjective in tone and that the offices may be over ran by various germs but I can only compare with what I experience in UK and what I saw there

So really you're saying that your experience was better than some bloke you've seen in a single practice in Derbyshire then.

Not England, and certainly not the UK.

I'm sure your place was very good, but with the exception of the silly shoes, I know of many places in North Yorkshire - never mind the whole of Yorkshire - never mind England and certainly there will be hundreds if not thousands like it in the UK.

There are some excellent clinics in other parts of the world.

Poland has some I am sure.

One thing is for certain though, the regulations in Poland for cross infection control are nothing like the regulations in this country, so all compliance to best practice there is on a purely voluntary basis, and if they only want to pick the more visible signs, then that's up to them.

(Silly shoes are great, and dead cheap if you're saving money by reusing needles a few times)

I don't for one moment think your clinic will be doing this, I'm just illustrating my point that in Britain, someone would be strung from a tree if they did that. In Poland? No-one's even checking.

I have two big problems with health tourism (Of all sorts - not just dentistry)

People are not machines. It is not a case of taking out one part and replacing it with a thing off a shelf that slots in and works.

There will always be a percentage of people for who things go wrong. At all skill levels, at all price points in all countries.

This would necessitate speedy follow-ups with the surgeon who did the work.

Also, if something goes very badly wrong, you need to know that you are covered by legislation that will get you some sort of redress, and that the surgeon carrying out the work is bound by some sort of process, and is suitable insured.

In this country, yo have systems and access to legal redress.

Abroad??????

jeanna_2

which crest strips do you buy from ebay?the ones at £15.50 or £32.99

gamma

Im using the supreme ones just now - my teeth were stained quite abit and I'm on day 4 now - using them just now..

So far 4 people have commented on my teeth without me prompting them - but I also went for a sunbed for maximun effect!

They are working for me, giving me no sensitivity at all but I have had a stomach ache - possibly from swallowing some of the gel.. - this was a one off tho so it could have been a dodgy something I ate.

hth

teoanne

gamma wrote: »

Im using the supreme ones just now - my teeth were stained quite abit and I'm on day 4 now - using them just now..

So far 4 people have commented on my teeth without me prompting them - but I also went for a sunbed for maximun effect!

They are working for me, giving me no sensitivity at all but I have had a stomach ache - possibly from swallowing some of the gel.. - this was a one off tho so it could have been a dodgy something I ate.

hth

great! let us know how it goes...i'm really worried about the sensitivity bit

gamma

last night had another hour (one set after the other) - just having some hot coffee just now, and all is fine no sensitivity at all.

Please bear in mind this is in my case and some people have reported sensitivity. I did get a dull stomach ache for about an hour again yesterday shortly after using them.

Not bad tho just feel a wee bit upset but it was gone about an hour after I finished the set.

C

Frequent_Flyer_UK

There will always be a percentage of people for who things go wrong. At all skill levels, at all price points in all countries.

This would necessitate speedy follow-ups with the surgeon who did the work.

Also, if something goes very badly wrong, you need to know that you are covered by legislation that will get you some sort of redress, and that the surgeon carrying out the work is bound by some sort of process, and is suitable insured.

In this country, yo have systems and access to legal redress.

Abroad??????[/QUOTE]

These were all issues we thought about and it was a financially driven decision. I did have a mental image of an unshaven, smoking dentist wearing a blood stained apron greeting us. You are right to point out these issues and I guess you are involved in dentistry by the factual points you raise.

As with any system there are good dentists in the UK and many excellent ones. There are also bad ones in UK who are lax on hygeine - recent case about dentist who was not using gloves, using sink as a toilet etc - an extreme example I know.

That is why I said in my original entry buyer beware, at least I think I did. Assess the risks and if you are comfortable with the risk then go for it.

Toothsmith

johnboyle007 wrote: »

As with any system there are good dentists in the UK and many excellent ones. There are also bad ones in UK who are lax on hygeine - recent case about dentist who was not using gloves, using sink as a toilet etc - an extreme example I know.

That is why I said in my original entry buyer beware, at least I think I did. Assess the risks and if you are comfortable with the risk then go for it.

You did indeed say that. And you also mentioned follow up care in your list of questions.

But accountability, the countries regulations, and also the compatability of systems used with those that are available and used in this country were not in your list of questions.(I didn't mention that last one in my post - but particularly if people are thinking of implants - there are lots of systems out there, not all of which are licensed in this country).

I really wouldn't recommend this approach to healthcare.

If you do go for it, then make sure you have the finances available to get problems sorted out in this country if you are unable to face a flight back to wherever because of pain and swelling.

And if you have enough put aside to account for that eventuality, then you would almost certainly have enough to search out a good dentist in this country and get it done here.

From your post, I would guess your partner is Polish?

If you spend significant periods of time in a foreign country, then it's a different matter. A good polish dentist is just as capable of providing regular care as a good British one.

My big objection is to the big 'Get it all sorted in a fortnight' fixes with bridges, implants and the works.

Patients who this appeals to are often the ones that have let their teeth get into a right old state, and unless time is taken to correct their bad habits, then all the nice reconstructive work will be doomed to failure. This is why I also thing these '10 Years Younger' programs are such a bad idea. You see no attempt to change behavior, and there are no long term follow ups. (I would love to see the program '10 Years Younger - 10 Years Later).

So - as you seem to have contacts in Poland, then getting your dentistry done there may well be OK for you. To encourage others to go there just for cheaper dentistry may well cost several people more dearly over the longer term