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Immigrants & Benefits
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »I didn't say immigrants would stop wage inflation.
I said we had a shortage of employees in Aberdeen, and were having to pay overqualified people to do menial jobs, which they dont want to do.
I had a trainee manager on 24K a year cleaning toilets last week.
Do you think that was an efficient use of her time?
Be interesting to see how long the trainee manager stays.
Part time contract cleaners perhaps."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
And you couldnt get a cleaner for £15kHAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »I didn't say immigrants would stop wage inflation.
I said we had a shortage of employees in Aberdeen, and were having to pay overqualified people to do menial jobs, which they dont want to do.
I had a trainee manager on 24K a year cleaning toilets last week.
Do you think that was an efficient use of her time?0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »I didn't say immigrants would stop wage inflation.
I said we had a shortage of employees in Aberdeen, and were having to pay overqualified people to do menial jobs, which they dont want to do.
I had a trainee manager on 24K a year cleaning toilets last week.
Do you think that was an efficient use of her time?
Everyone does menial jobs from time to time. Or they should do at least IMHO.
If you had a trainee manager cleaning the toilets every day, I'd be worried, but your post simply suggests they did it that one week.
I simply don't believe you can't get a cleaner for under 24k though. That's ridiculous.
What you are really telling us is you had a problem and someone had to deal with it. You haven't got a job there have you. You just had a problem, maybe sickness?
Hardly an argument for mass immigration.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Part time contract cleaners perhaps.
There were none available in anything less than 4 days.
All booked up.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
And you couldnt get a cleaner for £15k
We can't get a (reliable) cleaner for £20k at the moment.Graham_Devon wrote: »I simply don't believe you can't get a cleaner for under 24k though. That's ridiculous.
Oh you can, eventually.
We offer £10 per hour. But they frequently get poached.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »We can't get a (reliable) cleaner for £20k.
You are just extracting the urine now.
Night Hamish. This thread is pointless, and get's more extreme the more you post.
If you just want immigration so that you can pay low wages, you should have said pages ago, instead of claiming all the guff you've claimed.
Howcome it's just you again, and everyone else will be able to get cleaners for well under 20k!? Not reliable you say? Maybe they can't stand working for you?...0 -
They are tied.
Pull up a drunk uninsured driver who speaks little English and has no fixed address and no provable ID - not much they can do.
You are wrong on that one, I can recall one of the cop TV programs recently, they stopped a driver using a mobile phone while driving a company van, I was quite surprised that because he was Polish and had a Polish licence they intended arresting him and seizing the van until the matter was dealt with.
He had to phone and arrange for one of the office staff to pay his fine immediately on the side of the road by card to allow him to carry on.
I remember it because I wondered about the legality, "right to a fair trial" and all that, he had to admit guilt and pay the fine there and then to be allowed to leave the scene with his (UK) company van.====0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »You are just extracting the urine now. .
Nope.
We're competing against offshore wages up here. They make £18.50 an hour starting wage offshore.
The Aberdeen jobs market is mental. 0.8% unemployment.
Which begs the question, why aren't more Brits willing to get on their bike and move to where the work is?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
You are wrong on that one, I can recall one of the cop TV programs recently, they stopped a driver using a mobile phone while driving a company van, I was quite surprised that because he was Polish and had a Polish licence they intended arresting him and seizing the van until the matter was dealt with.
He had to phone and arrange for one of the office staff to pay his fine immediately on the side of the road by card to allow him to carry on.
I remember it because I wondered about the legality, "right to a fair trial" and all that, he had to admit guilt and pay the fine there and then to be allowed to leave the scene with his (UK) company van.
If it's the one I watched, which sounds extremely similar, it was because he had an illegal tyre. He would have been fined on the spot. However, the company came out and replaced it there and then, and he wasn't fined.
They were given the option whether to deal with it there and then, or face a fine and points there and then, which would be the same for everyone, british, polish, regardless.
He got a fine for the mobile phone, with a producer.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Howcome it's just you again, and everyone else will be able to get cleaners for well under 20k!? Not reliable you say? Maybe they can't stand working for you?...
They can't though.
The Aberdeen jobs market is absolutely mental.
I don't care if you're BP or Shell or Joe Bloggs the baker, nobody can get good people and keep them for anything close to the wages elsewhere in the country.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0
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