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Immigrants & Benefits

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  • tesuhoha
    tesuhoha Posts: 17,971 Forumite
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    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    But as a Scot moving to England, surely that would make me an immigrant?

    Aren't you trying to claim you already have too many? :rotfl:

    A poor excuse.

    So are the Scots welcoming immigration as opposed to the English? Personally, I do not believe in the Scottish/English divide. I've lived in Scotland.
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  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    Nope.

    I'm just noting that your posts earlier in particular, contained numerous false claims, made up stories, and racist nonsense.

    No Hamish - they did not.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    edited 19 January 2013 at 3:00PM
    homelessskilledworker wrote: »
    It must be so easy to enter a weird state of reality when you are sat at PC 24/7 and not mixing in the real world.

    Wow, you still think people have to be at home on their PC-s when they're posting?

    You should really try one of these.....

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    homelessskilledworker wrote: »
    I DO NOT want my culture anymore diluted .

    And there we have it folks.....

    Game, Set and Match to McTavish. :rotfl:
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • tesuhoha
    tesuhoha Posts: 17,971 Forumite
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    homelessskilledworker wrote: »
    It must be so easy to enter a weird state of reality when you are sat at PC 24/7 and not mixing in the real world.
    I cannot think of one person that even comes close to Hamishes so call "pro" immigration stance in the real world, homeowners and renters alike.

    I think the major difference between many of us and Hamish is that most of us do not want to be rich at the expence of living in an over crowded toilet.

    I DO NOT want my culture anymore diluted by the arrival of 100,000's of non skilled Bulgarians and Romanians, if they want to go to Scotland then thats fine.

    Immigration is making us poorer not richer. We have so much debt that we cannot possibly pay it back and we cannot afford the schooling, NHS, policing and other services for mass immigration.
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    And the racists, bigots and xenophobes spend a lot of time denying the facts, denying the evidence, and claiming they aren't that way at all.

    But the evidence of positive benefits to immigration are so overwhelming, there can simply be no other reason to argue against it.

    As I've noted before, if you think immigration is really a serious problem for this country you are either a racist, bigot or xenophobe, or you are not intelligent enough to understand the (admittedly quite complex) economic and social benefits.
    Would not controlled immigration (picking the most useful to the UK) be a much better option than an open border?
  • tesuhoha
    tesuhoha Posts: 17,971 Forumite
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    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    Wow, you still think people have to be at home on their PC-s when they're posting?

    You should really try one of these.....

    apple-iphone-5-ios-6-580x358.jpg?1347477753







    And there we have it folks.....

    Game, Set and Match to McTavish. :rotfl:

    Wow, you've got an iphone. Wow.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    tesuhoha wrote: »
    Immigration is making us poorer not richer. We have so much debt that we cannot possibly pay it back and we cannot afford the schooling, NHS, policing and other services for mass immigration.

    That is an economically illiterate position to take.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    Moby wrote: »
    Boston is attractive to immigrants because of work opportunities. Statistically there is also a very low uptake of benefits and housing by these immigrants. Also Bulgarians and Romanians have the option of going to any other country in the EU. Its a scare story propagated by UKIP and Migration Watch looney tunes with little basis in fact. There may be an issue but it is hugely exaggerated.

    Are you for real?
    Statistically there is also a very low uptake of benefits and housing by these immigrants.

    Are you sure about this? I suggest you take your nose out of the "reports" Hamish has handed over to you and actually visit some of these places. When the lady on question time said Boston is at Breaking point......she wasn't kidding.
    Also Bulgarians and Romanians have the option of going to any other country in the EU.

    They do - but still many are likely to come here. Pointing out that they have the option to go to other countries and that it is "different this time" is just a desperate attempt to try and ignore what will really happen. That excuse will be quoted a lot by the Tories between now and Jan 2014.
  • tesuhoha
    tesuhoha Posts: 17,971 Forumite
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    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    That is an economically illiterate position to take.

    Tell me then, how immigration is going to repay our trillions of pounds of debt?
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  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    And there we have it folks.....

    Game, Set and Match to McTavish. :rotfl:

    You truly are deluded.
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