MSE News: MPs vote to limit benefit rises to 1%

plum2002

Not his fault if the perks are there - not claimants fault if the welfare state tops up wages, or claimants fault if income in benefits is more than working. That £39 could feed someone for a week, he spends it on breakfast, can you really not see something is off course here?


incidentally - given that most Ministers are completely out of touch with the general public they really aren't capable of representing us or deciding anything on our behalf.

chris1973

This soap opera is great!. Just wish I could afford some popcorn

JillyJolly_2

bloomingflower wrote: »

To be fair gentile no one is actually envious of IDS or others.

I certainly wouldn't like his job!.

The point Jilly was making is how can a minister say one thing,then turn around and do another?

Its one thing for IDS to have perks and benefits(pardon the pun!) but don't take the pi$$.... berating job seekers for living on such a huge amount of £70 a week and thinks it's too much and then spending more than half of that on his brekkie and to then rub salt in the wounds by claiming it back on TP's expenses.

That really is not a good idea.

It's called being a hypocrite.

(I would love to call him something else but it is probably unwise on here!):)
I will just call him a cheeky beggar!

Exactly my point, it's irony and hypocrisy at it's best, most of them do it, there is many examples, and this is why there is many angry people. They live like kings and only want to take money of people who don't have money in the first place to put more money in their own pockets, I could bring up a million examples.

The pro government people on here may not like it, but those are the ones you should be looking at, not the people claiming benefits, yes some of them are on the wrong, but not all of them are. In the end it all comes down to the higher powers, and it's those you should be looking at, not bashing everyone else on a forum.

bloomingflower

chris1973 wrote: »

This soap opera is great!. Just wish I could afford some popcorn

I can lend you some money? which flavour would you like? lol

toffee?,salted? or sweet?

Which reminds me,its dinner time lol

guilds

Gentile wrote: »

Honestly, you are now envious of expenses of others ?? How sad !
He is a minster and he gets ministerial perks which he uses. Not his fault if the perks are there. Be in the job that pays those perks and you too can eat caviar for breakfast. Cant say fairer than that ! Decide to sit on the dole you will not get much.

Love it just realized your100% trolling, UK Taxpayers Alliance Avatar and
Fighting injustice against the UK tax payer since 2012.;) as your signature :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Matthew Sinclair would be proud of that post NOT! Troll

guilds

I should have twigged earlier, it is a shame that individuals find people baiting a good way to while away few hours, there are some very honest and concerned people on this forum sad how some enjoy exploiting this concern.

ILW

JillyJolly wrote: »

Exactly my point, it's irony and hypocrisy at it's best, most of them do it, there is many examples, and this is why there is many angry people. They live like kings and only want to take money of people who don't have money in the first place to put more money in their own pockets, I could bring up a million examples.

The pro government people on here may not like it, but those are the ones you should be looking at, not the people claiming benefits, yes some of them are on the wrong, but not all of them are. In the end it all comes down to the higher powers, and it's those you should be looking at, not bashing everyone else on a forum.

To be more correct, nobody is taking money off anyone, just not increasing the amount given by as much as some hoped.

Ellejmorgan

Gentile wrote: »

Honestly, you are now envious of expenses of others ?? How sad !
He is a minster and he gets ministerial perks which he uses. Not his fault if the perks are there. Be in the job that pays those perks and you too can eat caviar for breakfast. Cant say fairer than that ! Decide to sit on the dole you will not get much.

IDS has done alright seeing as he was also a benefits claimant, he forgets to mention that...

regbrown

ILW wrote: »

To be more correct, nobody is taking money off anyone, just not increasing the amount given by as much as some hoped.

I assume you have no idea how inflation works then.

I would not wish JSA on my worst enemy and I would never compare benefit rises to my own (or lack of) pay rises.

This lot have already gone after the genuinely sick with venom, they only care about how they can attack people and get away with it. If we are in such a mess financially how comes we managed to lower corporation tax by 3%, faster than planed. It was not exactly high anyway, compared to other major western economies.

But no, lets rip into those on benefits and completely forget it was the banking crisis in the private sector which has put us in this mess. Utterly repugnant.

ILW

regbrown wrote: »

I assume you have no idea how inflation works then.

I would not wish JSA on my worst enemy and I would never compare benefit rises to my own (or lack of) pay rises.

This lot have already gone after the genuinely sick with venom, they only care about how they can attack people and get away with it. If we are in such a mess financially how comes we managed to lower corporation tax by 3%, faster than planed. It was not exactly high anyway, compared to other major western economies.

But no, lets rip into those on benefits and completely forget it was the banking crisis in the private sector which has put us in this mess. Utterly repugnant.

Tell me what has been taken away?
Even allowing for inflation it is just a matter of giving less. That is different to taking something away.