MSE News: MPs vote to limit benefit rises to 1%

JillyJolly_2

While I don't agree with people getting more money than they are suppose to, and agree that many get to much money from benefits, the bigger issue here lies within the governments themselves. A quick example below.

Ian Duncan Smith thinks £70 a week jobseekers allowance is to much: Yet IDS recently spent £39 on one breakfast alone, then claimed it back on taxpayers expenses.

So while the governments keep blaming benefits claimers, they themselves are the worse of them all.

I also think its wrong to openly bash everyone on benefits, it's stuck up, while some are in the wrong claiming to much, not the case with everyone, openly bashing those you know nothing about.

bloomingflower

JillyJolly wrote: »

While I don't agree with people getting more money than they are suppose to, and agree that many get to much money from benefits, the bigger issue here lies within the governments themselves. A quick example below.

Ian Duncan Smith thinks £70 a week jobseekers allowance is to much: Yet IDS recently spent £39 on one breakfast alone, then claimed it back on taxpayers expenses.

So while the governments keep blaming benefits claimers, they themselves are the worse of them all.

I also think its wrong to openly bash everyone on benefits, it's stuck up, while some are in the wrong claiming to much, not the case with everyone, openly bashing those you know nothing about.

Bloody L, I am completely gob-smacked with my chin to the floor,
don't know what to say!:eek::shocked:

Gentile

JillyJolly wrote: »

While I don't agree with people getting more money than they are suppose to, and agree that many get to much money from benefits, the bigger issue here lies within the governments themselves. A quick example below.

Ian Duncan Smith thinks £70 a week jobseekers allowance is to much: Yet IDS recently spent £39 on one breakfast alone, then claimed it back on taxpayers expenses.

So while the governments keep blaming benefits claimers, they themselves are the worse of them all.

I also think its wrong to openly bash everyone on benefits, it's stuck up, while some are in the wrong claiming to much, not the case with everyone, openly bashing those you know nothing about.

Honestly, you are now envious of expenses of others ?? How sad !
He is a minster and he gets ministerial perks which he uses. Not his fault if the perks are there. Be in the job that pays those perks and you too can eat caviar for breakfast. Cant say fairer than that ! Decide to sit on the dole you will not get much.

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver

Ian Duncan Smith would go to Claridges, etc. He has no compunction about charging his expenses to the Taxpayer and that includes me, because I pay ridiculously high amounts of VAT which is a T-A-X yet MSE and benefits bashers won't regard me as having Taxpayer Rights, because I pay a 'Spending' Tax.
I think they would love benefits claimants to live in the most unhealthy and difficult circumstances than even remotely complain about the REAL causes of this deficit, the recession caused by the financial crisis bailouts of the bankers, the tories best mates.
I would surmise that benefit bashers are in collusion with supporting the rich who can do what they like, when we need solutions to disability and illness financial provision on the one hand and solving the forced idleness on the other.
I will also say that LIFE IS FOR LIVING, if you don't enjoy life you cannot get anywhere.
I try to enjoy life despite living in a depressing atsmosphere of an assortment of very severely mentally ill neighbours yet benefits bashers will label me as scrounger despite of going through the hoops to get my benefits which I deserve and wish I wasn't on.
Intellectually benefits bashers have lost their reason, deny their rationality and independent capacities for thinking. Because they are mesmerised by the propaganda of the right wing press which is campaigning to dismantle the welfare state.
I don't see them thinking independently.

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver

Do benefit bashers think that by bashing me that they stand the remotest chance of influencing my financial behaviour?????!!!!!
I already have people to help me see whether it is good/bad/reprehensible or is flawed in any way thank you very much.
A pointless exercise, they must do it for the thrill and especially for the curtain twitching potential.

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver

:eek::eek::eek::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:people here have tried but failed....

bloomingflower

JillyJolly wrote: »

Ian Duncan Smith thinks £70 a week jobseekers allowance is to much: Yet IDS recently spent £39 on one breakfast alone, then claimed it back on taxpayers expenses.

Gentile wrote: »

Honestly, you are now envious of expenses of others ?? How sad !
He is a minster and he gets ministerial perks which he uses. Not his fault if the perks are there. Be in the job that pays those perks and you too can eat caviar for breakfast. Cant say fairer than that ! Decide to sit on the dole you will not get much.

To be fair gentile no one is actually envious of IDS or others.

I certainly wouldn't like his job!.

The point Jilly was making is how can a minister say one thing,then turn around and do another?

Its one thing for IDS to have perks and benefits(pardon the pun!) but don't take the pi$$.... berating job seekers for living on such a huge amount of £70 a week and thinks it's too much and then spending more than half of that on his brekkie and to then rub salt in the wounds by claiming it back on TP's expenses.

That really is not a good idea.

It's called being a hypocrite.

(I would love to call him something else but it is probably unwise on here!):)
I will just call him a cheeky beggar!

Gentile

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver wrote: »

Do benefit bashers think that by bashing me that they stand the remotest chance of influencing my financial behaviour?????!!!!!
I already have people to help me see whether it is good/bad/reprehensible or is flawed in any way thank you very much.
A pointless exercise, they must do it for the thrill and especially for the curtain twitching potential.

Nurse !! He is off his meds again !!

plum2002

Gentile wrote: »

Honestly, you are now envious of expenses of others ?? How sad !
He is a minster and he gets ministerial perks which he uses. Not his fault if the perks are there. Be in the job that pays those perks and you too can eat caviar for breakfast. Cant say fairer than that ! Decide to sit on the dole you will not get much.

Irony anyone..................

Gentile

plum2002 wrote: »

Irony anyone..................

Explain ? Ministers should live in poverty is it ? Because the people they represent have decided to be bone idle and pop out sprogs every year and hence chose a life in poverty.