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  • LJacks
    LJacks Posts: 20 Forumite
    PLEASE NOTE.
    As already posted - There is NO SAFE type of asbestos, blue, white AND brown pose serious health risks.

    One inhaled or ingested fibre can cause MESOTHELIOMA a terminal, non treatable lung cancer which once diagnosed results in a 6-12 month survival. The cancer may not develop for 10-60 years after exposure. However, because children have been exposed, people in their 20's and 30's are now dying of this wholly preventable disease.

    Studies have shown removing 1 drawing pin from intact asbestos board releases an average of 6000 fibres. Teachers and pupils have been and are being exposed like this on a daily basis.

    PLEASE do not help insurance claim by damaging with a hammer! Please do not remove yourself. Ask local council for advice, contact HSE for advice and leave to licensed contractors to move. Paper overalls, a mask, working outside and wetting the asbestos is insufficient. You will expose and contaminate your garden, your home, you family, you neighbours and their homes and gardens and everyone who visits you and them. The fibres can be invisible. It is impossible to destroy asbestos fibres. Carrying the fibres on your clothes and in your hair will contaminate and expose everyone you come into contact with and washing them off in your family bathroom will deposit them further in your home. Leave it to the trained professionals. Hang the cost.
    You may say, 'easy for you to say'. No, actually. I watch my Dad die from Mesothelioma in 2005 and it wasn't easy. He was exposed, like so many others, through no fault of his own, at work.

    PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not take any risks with this material. Asbestos is carcinogenic. Levels of exposure and the amount of times you are exposed does not mean you will not develop, Mesothelioma or one of the other lung cancers or one of the other Asbestos related diseases. Please don't risk your life or the lives of those around you. People are dying, (5000+ per year in the UK alone) from this killer material. One person dies every 5 hours in the UK from Mesothelioma. And, 1 in 100 men born in the UK in the 1940's will die from Mesothelioma. Mostof these statistics so far represent occupational exposure. The numbers of people exposed because of existing asbestos in buildings that are demolished or refurbished will continue to grow as long as people take risks, to save money, or because they don't know the extent of the risk they are taking or because they don't know they are dealing with asbestos.
    NICE aren't allowwing the only treatment licensed for treating Mesothelioma because it isn't cost effective to give terminal patients a few extra weeks or months. The Government aren't ploughing any money into research for Mesothelioma. Charities are doing some research but they can only do so much.

    If you take risks with asbestos today and develop this disease in 10-60 years time, it's likely you will face certain death within 6-12 months just like todays victims of Mesothelioma are facing.

    For more information -www.prospect.org.uk/healthandsafety/rogerlowecampaign/index
    if you have been exposed to asbestos
    24hour free helpline 0800 9169072
  • nealnomoney
    nealnomoney Posts: 161 Forumite
    where did you copy and paste that from...................
  • southernscouser
    southernscouser Posts: 33,745 Forumite
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    I eat asbestos as part of my daily diet and it ain't done me no harm! The baldness and jaundice ain't linked! :D

    Wanna do my garage this summer but I've got no real qualms about doing it! There are thousands of people of were exposed to it daily and not affected! Besides, life would be dull if we didn't take risks every now and then eh? ;) :rotfl:
  • Amberdarcy
    Amberdarcy Posts: 139 Forumite
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    Please take heed of what LJacks has said. My Dad too, died of mesothelioma last year from exposure to asbestos. Asbestos, in any form, is no joking matter and dying from it, slowly and painfully certainly isn't. Don't take the risk.
  • Philip624
    Philip624 Posts: 716 Forumite
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    Is there any way of recognising Asbestos? We have a very old garden shed at the end of our garden that needs removing. How can I tell if the roof is made from asbestos? Are there experts you can get in?
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  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    LJacks wrote: »
    PLEASE NOTE.
    PLEASE do not help insurance claim by damaging with a hammer! Please do not remove yourself. Ask local council for advice, contact HSE for advice and leave to licensed contractors to move. Paper overalls, a mask, working outside and wetting the asbestos is insufficient. You will expose and contaminate your garden, your home, you family, you neighbours and their homes and gardens and everyone who visits you and them. The fibres can be invisible. It is impossible to destroy asbestos fibres. Carrying the fibres on your clothes and in your hair will contaminate and expose everyone you come into contact with and washing them off in your family bathroom will deposit them further in your home. Leave it to the trained professionals. Hang the cost.
    You may say, 'easy for you to say'. No, actually. I watch my Dad die from Mesothelioma in 2005 and it wasn't easy. He was exposed, like so many others, through no fault of his own, at work.

    Proffessionals will also not be able to remove the stuff without releasing into the atmosphere 1000's of fibres and fibres being put onto the surrounding garden. As long as the user has head to toe overalls - (personally I'd wear 2 one on top of the other), and a good quality breathing mask (not a piece of paper) they will be ok.

    From Thurock council:
    I have an asbestos cement garage roof. What precautions should I take when removing or repairing it?
    As this is outdoors, there is unlikely to be any risk of serious exposure to asbestos fibres. However, asbestos cement sheets can be fragile so take care to avoid falling through the roof. If you do decide to dismantle your garage roof, the work should be carried out in accordance with Health and Safety Executive (HSE) guidance in Working with asbestos cement. If possible, spray the sheets with water to reduce dust emissions. Try to remove them whole and take care to avoid breakage or sliding dry sheets over one another, as this will release asbestos fibres into the air. Avoid the use of power tools. A disposable dust mask that is 'CE' marked to EN 149 with FFP2 particulate filters will provide an additional level of protection. After removal, the asbestos should be bagged or wrapped in polythene sheets, sealed, labelled 'Asbestos' and taken to a disposal site licensed to take asbestos wastes. Whole sheets of asbestos cement do not need to be sealed but should be wrapped in polythene sheets.
  • cazmeg
    cazmeg Posts: 183 Forumite
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    I witnessed a close friend's death from mesothelioma and it was awful. Please do not take any risks with asbestos, it is not worth it.
    I am worried because our council house has asbestos just under the roof. As it is a chalet style roof the asbestos is very close to us. Is this a risk?
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    cazmeg wrote: »
    I witnessed a close friend's death from mesothelioma and it was awful. Please do not take any risks with asbestos, it is not worth it.
    I am worried because our council house has asbestos just under the roof. As it is a chalet style roof the asbestos is very close to us. Is this a risk?

    If it is stable and unbroken....no. A coat of paint helps to keep it stable.
  • Asbestos is pretty worrying stuff my dad used to work with it a lot as he worked on industrial boilers and stuff like that, he's been OK so far but it is something I don't like to think about. anyway I have a corrugated asbestos roof on my outhouse and the water leaks in what are the chances of that getting done on the builds cover as if it's leaking it must surely be breaking?
    Nothing to see here, move along.
  • nealnomoney
    nealnomoney Posts: 161 Forumite
    Ring your insurance co! Im with abbey and they had the contractors out the next week.
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