Term Time Holidays???

johnnyl

poet123 wrote: »

There is data that relates to days missed; be that through illness or holiday. That data relates to the attainment level of the average child, and few people admit to having one of those so that is why the data is dismissed!!!

I will point this out for a3rdtime.

That is not what I actually said

poet123

johnnyl wrote: »

I will point this out for a3rdtime.

That is not what I actually said

I know what you said, it was specifically general.;) The data relates to school days missed; regardless of reason.

bestpud

stu20vt wrote: »

Sorry but got to agree with JohnnyL here regarding teachers. Having worked for an education authority (not as a teacher), teachers do live in their own bubble regarding their perceived authority

I completely agree with that part too!

johnnyl

poet123 wrote: »

I know what you said, it was specifically general.;) The data relates to school days missed; regardless of reason.

correct, and do you not think that this is important?

For a kick off that document openly states that there is no implied causality. So there is that argument shot straight away.

Secondly, there will be a relationship between total time off and achievement. However within those figures will be children that are continually sick (a kid who will struggle anyway) and those that are absent a lot / truanting / bunking off halfway through the day and the likelyhood is that these kids are not encouraged at home (homework etc)

There is no evidence whatsoever that for the "normal" non extremes that have otherwise good attendance in the high 90% are then affected by a term time holiday. It is complete guff.

pipkin71

balletshoes wrote: »

but where are the figures ie what level of absence are we looking at here, and is that one 5-day period in one school year, the only school year where an absence was taken, or is it an absence of more than 10 days say, every year of their school life up to year 11? I mean what are we talking about here?

It states 'higher than average levels of absence'.

pipkin71

balletshoes wrote: »

you'd think (I've got no intention of trawling through it, sorry) - but I'm still not sure that it would be relevant to the OP, who is considering taking her primary school age children out of school for 5 school days once in their school life, when they usually don't miss any school.

It isn't because, based on what the OP said, their children don't have a 'higher than average level of absence'

poet123

johnnyl wrote: »

correct, and do you not think that this is important?

For a kick off that document openly states that there is no implied causality. So there is that argument shot straight away.

Secondly, there will be a relationship between total time off and achievement. However within those figures will be children that are continually sick (a kid who will struggle anyway) and those that are absent a lot / truanting / bunking off halfway through the day and the likelyhood is that these kids are not encouraged at home (homework etc)

There is no evidence whatsoever that for the "normal" non extremes that have otherwise good attendance in the high 90% are then affected by a term time holiday. It is complete guff.

I agree, but unfortunately even those whose children do fall into that category are unlikely to believe those figures apply to their children.

onlyroz

This article:

http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6049813

Suggests that term-time holidays are the second-most common reason for school absence. Therefore, if there is a link between absence and attainment in general, then there must also be a link between term-time holidays and attainment.

Person_one

Sally_A wrote: »

Please do not take them out of term time. It's the only time people that are pre-breeding, or now have independent children can guarantee a peaceful holiday.

Nothing worse than a loud mouthed family screeching for an out of control Chardonnay and Tyson around the hotel.

(Dons tin hat and waits for the bullets ).

So many attention seekers on the forums these days...

Janepig

onlyroz wrote: »

This article:

http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6049813

Suggests that term-time holidays are the second-most common reason for school absence. Therefore, if there is a link between absence and attainment in general, then there must also be a link between term-time holidays and attainment.

The people I've seen being prosecuted, jailed even, for not sending their children to school didn't do so because they were taking them on term time holidays. It was mostly that they couldn't be @rsed to get up in the morning to get them ready, or if the child said they didn't want to go then they were happy not to argue.

Jx