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Term Time Holidays???
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Sorry Pipkin, it was meant as a tongue-in-cheek postAs school - or full time education - is not compulsory at nursery age, there won't be an issue with the LEA, should school say no but you still wish to go.
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Proud Parents to an Aut-some son 0 -
My view (as a teacher) is this: how would you feel if the teachers did as you describe? Do you not think we would like to benefit from the lower term-time prices too?
A few points
1) I know in the school bubble being a teacher carries some kind of authority, however beyond the impressionable 4 year old's it takes much more to influence others.
2) they aint your kids therefore it is nothing to do with you
3) Teachers despite what they may think are not experts on kids / parenting nor are they lifestyle coaches and advisers.
4) Teachers should avoid commenting on parents taking their kids out of school in term times for financial reasons given that they are more than happy to disrupt my child's education for fun and profit when it suits.
5) It is your job, hence why you are expected there. The last time I looked my child was not paid to go to school
HTH0 -
You need to find out your schools policy because some schools fine you £100 per member of the family per week, so if it's you, your partner and two children you could be fined £400! That makes its as costly as going in term time, but without the damage to their education.
There are studies that show the correlation between school attendance and academic achievement check them out. If your 10 yr old is in year 6, I'd really think carefully because it's a very important year. That said, there are also studies that show that children who holiday during KS2 who were on track to achieve level 4 are less likely to achieve level 4.
In a nut shell, do your research.
seen this bobbins before.
Provide the info, and by info I mean validated studies not so called experts making grand claims and speeches0 -
seen this bobbins before.
Provide the info, and by info I mean validated studies not so called experts making grand claims and speeches
As I said I have seen convincing PP presentations with verifiable data supporting the drop in GCSE grades on a sliding scale days off dependent. I will try to find the link.0 -
A few points
1) I know in the school bubble being a teacher carries some kind of authority, however beyond the impressionable 4 year old's it takes much more to influence others.
2) they aint your kids therefore it is nothing to do with you
3) Teachers despite what they may think are not experts on kids / parenting nor are they lifestyle coaches and advisers.
4) Teachers should avoid commenting on parents taking their kids out of school in term times for financial reasons given that they are more than happy to disrupt my child's education for fun and profit when it suits.
5) It is your job, hence why you are expected there. The last time I looked my child was not paid to go to school
HTH
Flipping heck!
And we wonder why behaviour in schools is at an all time low, if this is how the PARENTS talk to and about teachers...0 -
As I said I have seen convincing PP presentations with verifiable data supporting the drop in GCSE grades on a sliding scale days off dependent. I will try to find the link.
there might be a correlation in the year that you do the GCSE's but I will confidently predict that it is complete nonsense that there is a long term trend throughout a childs whole schooling.0 -
Flipping heck!
And we wonder why behaviour in schools is at an all time low, if this is how the PARENTS talk to and about teachers...
please point to the non factual elements of that post. It is the basic truth. It isnt anything to do with teachers and teachers are not life coaches / advisers. They are paid TO TEACH.0 -
please point to the non factual elements of that post. It is the basic truth. It isnt anything to do with teachers and teachers are not life coaches / advisers. They are paid TO TEACH.
1. That whether children do well at school is "nothing to do with the teacher". I hope that all the teachers at my kids school do care whether the kids do as well as they can academically and will help and encourage them to achieve that whether or not the children's parents give a toss.
2. Teachers are not experts on kids. Hmmm. They are experts on how kids learn, and on the impact missing school has on kids. They've also seen a darn sight more kids of different kinds than any parent has, and have had formal training in different aspects of child development, behaviour and learning. So, on balance, I'd say they have a high level of expertise on this subject and more than some parents.
3. Teachers should avoid commenting on timing of holidays. So you don't want to know if being absent on a certain week means that your child will miss an exam or compulsory assessment and therefore fail GCSE they have been studying 2 years for? Ideally before you book the holiday not afterwards.
4. Kids aren't paid to go to school. Have they abolished that grant for older kids then
I'm not a teacher, am not married to a teacher, none of my relatives are teachers, but I think your attitude sucks. Sorry.0 -
there might be a correlation in the year that you do the GCSE's but I will confidently predict that it is complete nonsense that there is a long term trend throughout a childs whole schooling.
I doubt you can confidently predict that for every child. Those stats are for the average child.0 -
1. That whether children do well at school is "nothing to do with the teacher". I hope that all the teachers at my kids school do care whether the kids do as well as they can academically and will help and encourage them to achieve that whether or not the children's parents give a toss.
nice change of subject. I actually said that it is nothing to do with them if a parent takes their kids on holiday. Nothing more, nothing less. It literally is non of their business2. Teachers are not experts on kids. Hmmm. They are experts on how kids learn, and on the impact missing school has on kids.
the follow what they are told. The company line.
There is not a shred of presentable evidence that a kid missing some days at school for a family holiday has a profound impact on that childs future development. It is utter nonsense.
Additionally, a point that you have rather conveniently skirted around is that if it was that important and had that much of an effect then surely these proffessionals who are experts on this wouldnt do anything like go on strike, would they?3. Teachers should avoid commenting on timing of holidays. So you don't want to know if being absent on a certain week means that your child will miss an exam or compulsory assessment and therefore fail GCSE they have been studying 2 years for? Ideally before you book the holiday not afterwards.
We are not, and never were talking about ridiculous extremes. The fact that you have to bring these in highlights how weak your argument is.
4. Kids aren't paid to go to school. Have they abolished that grant for older kids then 0
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