Term Time Holidays???

stu20vt

Sorry but got to agree with JohnnyL here regarding teachers. Having worked for an education authority (not as a teacher), teachers do live in their own bubble regarding their perceived authority. Primary school HT's being the worst.
If I take my child out of school for a holiday I will be writing a letter to the school TELLING them I will be taking MY child out for a week or so, not asking them.
Teachers should continue to teach 1+1 to children and keep out of my business as to when we holiday as a family.

johnnyl

poet123 wrote: »

I doubt you can confidently predict that for every child. Those stats are for the average child.

read it again.

there is no trend that points to kids being off for a family holiday and a kid underachieving.

There will be data showing that significant absences over a long period of time wil have an effect. There will be data that shows taking them off at certain key times such as exams will be bad but there is no overall trend.

Complete and utter rubbish.

onlyroz

Interesting article here:

https://www.education.gov.uk/publications/eOrderingDownload/RR571.pdf.pdf

A key quote:

Once pupil and school background characteristics were taken into account, there appeared to be an association between absence rates and pupil attainment:
Higher than average levels of absence (authorised and/or unauthorised) were associated with reduced attainment at GCSE in Year 11, with a particular impact on boys; reduced probability of achieving five or more GCSEs at A*-C; increased likelihood of not obtaining any GCSEs at grade C or above; reduced attainment in Key Stage 3 English (and, for authorised absence alone, Key Stage 3 Maths), with a particular impact on boys.

johnnyl

stu20vt wrote: »

Sorry but got to agree with JohnnyL here regarding teachers. Having worked for an education authority (not as a teacher), teachers do live in their own bubble regarding their perceived authority. Primary school HT's being the worst.
If I take my child out of school for a holiday I will be writing a letter to the school TELLING them I will be taking MY child out for a week or so, not asking them.
Teachers should continue to teach 1+1 to children and keep out of my business as to when we holiday as a family.

absolutely, and teachers are taking this the wrong way here. I actually think that the quality of teaching is good. But thats what you do....teach. Stick to it.

I dont need advice, or patronising, or lecturing etc etc.

johnnyl

onlyroz wrote: »

Interesting article here:

https://www.education.gov.uk/publications/eOrderingDownload/RR571.pdf.pdf

A key quote:

try to understand what I ACTUALLY wrote

balletshoes

onlyroz wrote: »

Interesting article here:

https://www.education.gov.uk/publications/eOrderingDownload/RR571.pdf.pdf

A key quote:

but where are the figures ie what level of absence are we looking at here, and is that one 5-day period in one school year, the only school year where an absence was taken, or is it an absence of more than 10 days say, every year of their school life up to year 11? I mean what are we talking about here?

poet123

johnnyl wrote: »

read it again.

there is no trend that points to kids being off for a family holiday and a kid underachieving.

There will be data showing that significant absences over a long period of time wil have an effect. There will be data that shows taking them off at certain key times such as exams will be bad but there is no overall trend.

Complete and utter rubbish.

There is data that relates to days missed; be that through illness or holiday. That data relates to the attainment level of the average child, and few people admit to having one of those so that is why the data is dismissed!!!

Sally_A

Please do not take them out of term time. It's the only time people that are pre-breeding, or now have independent children can guarantee a peaceful holiday.

Nothing worse than a loud mouthed family screeching for an out of control Chardonnay and Tyson around the hotel.

(Dons tin hat and waits for the bullets ).

onlyroz

balletshoes wrote: »

but where are the figures ie what level of absence are we looking at here, and is that one 5-day period in one school year, the only school year where an absence was taken, or is it an absence of more than 10 days say, every year of their school life up to year 11? I mean what are we talking about here?

It's a 55+ page document. Presumably the figures are in there somewhere.

balletshoes

onlyroz wrote: »

It's a 55+ page document. Presumably the figures are in there somewhere.

you'd think (I've got no intention of trawling through it, sorry) - but I'm still not sure that it would be relevant to the OP, who is considering taking her primary school age children out of school for 5 school days once in their school life, when they usually don't miss any school.