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oliverkinne

...I should have mentioned that I Googled for German ISPs that are free. There is one called freenet, which has its website at freenet.de. This means you really only pay 3p for the connection, but then nothing for as long as the connection lasts - so browsing is virtually free.

:cool:

Oliver.

Patr100

hercules wrote:

Anyone out there interested in forming an anti-Fast4 pressure group?

Never used them thankfully - you may already know of it - but always worth checking out the forums at https://www.ispreview.co.uk for any possible issues with ISPs etc.

Patr100

oliverkinne wrote:

...I should have mentioned that I Googled for German ISPs that are free. There is one called freenet, which has its website at freenet.de. This means you really only pay 3p for the connection, but then nothing for as long as the connection lasts - so browsing is virtually free.

:cool:

Oliver.

Great idea , only thing is, I've had a quick look via Google Translator but Im still not clear how I would register or use them. Ideally a foreign ISP that speaken de English as well.

oliverkinne

...the details:

Mirado: +49 681 9506 -or- +49 681 950990 -or- +49 6841 989590 -or- +49 6872 969590 - Username and password both "internet" (lower case!!)
O.tel.o: +49 30 28702000 -or- +49 521 3291000 -or- +49 5922 769000 -or- +49 211 26002600 - Username "otelo" and password "online" (lower case!!)
Callisto: +49 30 3958000 -or- +49 521 78703 -or- +49 421 52370 -or- +49 228 9739090
M-Net: +49 811 5417017 -or - +49 851 7777755 -or- +49 89 55069799
-or- +49 8131 618777
Freenet: +49 221 26090707 -or- +49 69 698600707 -or- +49 40 35070707 -or- +49 30 221600707

Where I didn't mention them, usernames and passwords can be selected freely - so chose whatever you like.

I haven't tried them all, but see how you get on.

Oliver.

Patr100

Thanks - Ive never used Call1889 or similar so will have a look sometime - Could be a useful energency back up if my BB goes AWOL.

oliverkinne

...their sister company call18866 (please note - it's 1899 with only one 8, but 18866 with two eights - I know, it's confusing ). The former for free calls to Germany (except for 3p connection charge) and the latter for free UK landline calls all day every day (except 1p connection charge). Since then the most I pay on phone bills is the line rental to BT. I wish there was a way not to have to pay any line rental - or a really small amount, but that's probably never going to happen.

Oliver.

Wig

Oliver,

You are a star! I have registered for 1899 (with NTL!) One day (soon!) I will get around to trying out your idea. I hope the Germany free offer stays available. I will use them for other european calls too.

** OH DEAR, I suppose you are on BT line and can set your modem to dial the 18990049... number no problem. I am on NTL and have to dial O8081707474 ... wait for voice message...then dial 0049.... How can I set up my modem to pause before dialing the rest of the number???

Can you or anyone else say how the billing works... do they really just bill your credit card for a few pence each month? I'm surprised it's worth it for them with the credit card handling fees.

Oh and am shocked to see the underhand tactics used by FAST 4 !!! Martin if you read this I hope you warn people.

Edinburghlass_2

wig, they generally carry your bill forward if it doesn't amount to much, sometimes even 3/4 months.

and check out martin's call checker here for the cheapest international calls

oliver, the connection charge for 18866 is now 2p, still a great bargain

andy88_2

Wig, to get a pause in the dialling, experiment with a gap or a comma. Friends dial 9 for outside line and I think it goes 9 08089...

baby_lamb

Thanks for this oliverkinne. I'll give it a try later.

Does anyone konw if German PAYG ISPs make money in the same way as UK ones, ie. take a portion of the call charge? If so, surely it means call1899 (or the company which sells it the call access) must have to pay the ISP. Since call1899 charges next to nothing for the call, someone has to pay, which means this model can't last(?).