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The Polls - Labour Lead At 14 - Is It The Economy?
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DecentLivingWage wrote: »The old saying goes for US election winners 'it's the economy stupid'
Winner, not winners. That was Bill Clinton's line when he beat George Bush.0 -
UKIP is a protest party and would never attract more than a few percentages of support in a general election. Remove the EU issue and UKIP is just an empty vessel. The Tories shouldn't feel too comfortable, as the EU referendum will not be enough to get them enough support to win the 2015 general election.
It's actually the lower standard of living that many think is forced on them by government. It's really down to the consequences of living off debt, ie when it has to be paid back, and the sheep-like behaviour of consumers who are prolonging the slump by saving instead of spending as much as they used to.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »It's actually the lower standard of living that many think is forced on them by government. It's really down to the consequences of living off debt, ie when it has to be paid back, and the sheep-like behaviour of consumers who are prolonging the slump by saving instead of spending as much as they used to.
Are you going out and spending avariciously? On some posts you seem to extol the virtue of doing so and on others it appears to be the root of all evil.
Perhaps the fact that some don't spend so much on discretionary spend is because they simply don't have it to spend with higher bills and flat incomes?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »It's actually the lower standard of living that many think is forced on them by government. It's really down to the consequences of living off debt, ie when it has to be paid back, and the sheep-like behaviour of consumers who are prolonging the slump by saving instead of spending as much as they used to.
You are deluding yourself if you think we can ever get away from debt. What is important is not the debt itself but whether it can be managed; once it becomes unmanageable then remedial action needs to be taken. People save because they are frightened of losing their jobs, homes, families, etc. The government has managed to create a widespread 'feelbad' factor in the country and this is what is preventing a recovery.0 -
Simple. People are fed up with this enforced austerity and the lower standard of living that the government has imposed on most of the population. That's the reason for the Labour lead.
Then they are going to be really peed off when Labour say that they are not going to reverse any coalition actions.....
Might see a tail off of support when election manifestos are published.0 -
You are deluding yourself if you think we can ever get away from debt. What is important is not the debt itself but whether it can be managed; once it becomes unmanageable then remedial action needs to be taken.
Why do think these extraordinary measures have been taken?
Special Liquidity Scheme
Special Guarantee Scheme
QE
Funding For Lending
NR and B&B Nationalised
RBS/HBOS part nationalised.
NR funded with £45 billion of taxpayers money.
HBOS received £25 billion to stay afloat prior to LLoyds merger.
Hardly surprising that economy is flat on its back.....
After choking on loose lending by banks (2002-2008).0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Then they are going to be really peed off when Labour say that they are not going to reverse any coalition actions.....
Might see a tail off of support when election manifestos are published.
Miliband knows that he can't promise what he can't deliver. He will certainly reverse some of the Con Dem policies, but which ones isn't yet clear.0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Why do think these extraordinary measures have been taken?
Special Liquidity Scheme
Special Guarantee Scheme
QE
Funding For Lending
NR and B&B Nationalised
RBS/HBOS part nationalised.
NR funded with £45 billion of taxpayers money.
HBOS received £25 billion to stay afloat prior to LLoyds merger.
Hardly surprising that economy is flat on its back.....
After choking on loose lending by banks (2002-2008).
Most of the measures taken to to prop up the banks were only designed to be temporary, with the banks needing to pay back the taxpayer in the future.0 -
Most of the measures taken to to prop up the banks were only designed to be temporary, with the banks needing to pay back the taxpayer in the future.
They are all temporary measures. So that the banking system didn't collapse.
I merely listed them to illustrate the severity of the problem.0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Then they are going to be really peed off when Labour say that they are not going to reverse any coalition actions.....
Might see a tail off of support when election manifestos are published.
It is little different to any party attempting to win or come into new government. They rarely change what has been done before. They just do different things and divert resources /spend.
It is good to be seen to be doing change and new things whether that actually makes any difference to the underlying business is another matter."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0
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