The Polls - Labour Lead At 14 - Is It The Economy?

DecentLivingWage

Interesting point... did anyone see Farage on Murnaghan this morning? (I actually quite like him! as a character! I like him more than Boris, who is more of a poser I feel.)

DecentLivingWage

Update : Since the Cameron interview on Marr this morning, William Hill now have Lab 6/5 favourites to win General Election 2015 (ov maj I think) - from 6/4

a) he shouldnt have insulted Ukip voters?

b) his 'recovery' figures are already old news - the new ones are far worse (respect the voters intelligence?)

c) that shirt !!!! (a Lynton Crosby cunning plan? lol - blue = bleu collar workers? what a joke!! if so....)

Still, loving the intrigue of it all coming up to the beginning of the campaign!

DecentLivingWage

So - not just the economy then

Catastrophic Poll for the Cons this morning :

Labour surge to 35% for EU elections,Cons demoted to 3rd place by Uki and tanking at 22%,LibDem disintegrarion at 8%

ComRes/People

BertieUK

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

So - not just the economy then

Catastrophic Poll for the Cons this morning :

Labour surge to 35% for EU elections,Cons demoted to 3rd place by Uki and tanking at 22%,LibDem disintegrarion at 8%

ComRes/People

...Although this is a mid term blip and of no immediate electoral threat ... And if they believe this they will be in a soapy bubble.

homelessskilledworker

BertieUK wrote: »

...Although this is a mid term blip and of no immediate electoral threat ... And if they believe this they will be in a soapy bubble.

I remember parties having the mid term blues in the past, I am certain Maggie Thatcher never went a term without being behind at some point.
I am sure it was the same for Tony slimeball Blair as well, but what is happening now feels different.

There is a large section of our society out there that are not being listened to and who even though they in theory have their party in power have nobody speaking for them.

The party of aspiration and standing on your own two feet and taking responsibility for your own life where you are rewarded for you hard work is the Conservative party. But there are people out there working their socks off, have two jobs, do not claim welfare and who SAVE.

Even though these type of people spend many years putting in, they see so many people taking out who have never put anything in, and this is all happening under a conservative government.
Of course traditional Labour voters who take out of the welfare system are complaing about unjust cuts, but thats what they do anyway, COMPLAIN and act the victim, thats why today we have a £200 Billion plus yearly welfare system that all parties are now too scared to take on.


p.s for the record I am slightly left of centre in my politics

GeorgeHowell

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

and this is all happening under a conservative government.

Actually it isn't, it's a coalition government and the LibDems are at least as left as Labour in most respects.

The EU, welfare, human rights, criminal justice, green spending, and others are all areas dear to traditional Conservative's hearts, where Clegg and co have placed a large bucket of sand around the government's neck. If those voters do not want to see a return to 1997-2010, then they need to give Cameron & co the benefit of doubt and their own mandate to see what happens. If they then fail, kick em out by all means. But can the risk of five years of watching them fail be any worse than five years of Milliband and Balls, who we know will fail to deal with any of those things ?

homelessskilledworker

GeorgeHowell wrote: »

Actually it isn't, it's a coalition government and the LibDems are at least as left as Labour in most respects.

The EU, welfare, human rights, criminal justice, green spending, and others are all areas dear to traditional Conservative's hearts, where Clegg and co have placed a large bucket of sand around the government's neck. If those voters do not want to see a return to 1997-2010, then they need to give Cameron & co the benefit of doubt and their own mandate to see what happens. If they then fail, kick em out by all means. But can the risk of five years of watching them fail be any worse than five years of Milliband and Balls, who we know will fail to deal with any of those things ?

5 years of Millband and Balls will send the Labour party back into the dark ages, but sadly it will leave the UK in dire mess.

BertieUK

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

There is a large section of our society out there that are not being listened to and who even though they in theory have their party in power have nobody speaking for them.

This large section of our society could change their direction at the voting booth if they are ignored.

GeorgeHowell

BertieUK wrote: »

This large section of our society could change their direction at the voting booth if they are ignored.

You're surely not seriously suggesting that Labour are any less likely to fail to listen to the people who voted for them ?

BobQ

Generali wrote: »

About 95% of those UKIP 'voters' polled will end up voting Conservative at the next General Election or abstaining.

Exactly the same thing used to happen during the 1980s and with the Liberals/SDP/Alliance support. When it comes to polling day, people want to vote for someone who has a chance of winning. A vote for UKIP is a wasted vote, everyone knows it.

I agree with the bit in bold at the local level. Many people vote tactically or in protest in the constituency where they feel there is a chance of influencing the constituency outcome.. What is less clear is the extent that a party can translate this into a national outcome.

UKIP support could fall as you say, particularly if a month out it looks like UKIP support will "let labour in". However, if these disaffected voters feel let down by Cameron's performance they may feel content to make a strong anti-EU protest, particularly if Cameron fails to deliver an in/out vote.