The Polls - Labour Lead At 14 - Is It The Economy?

DecentLivingWage

Wondering why polling of ordinary voters is telling a different tale to story of confidence the coalition is spinning? Conservatives are at an all-time low in polls since April (29%) They need to be at 40 to even have a whisker of winning. The old saying goes for US election winners 'it's the economy stupid' Do you think it's the same here? Or maybe the NHS as waiting times in A & E have shot back up to 4 hrs due to staff cuts. Either way, Labour's on 14.

Generali

The British people have gone back to a belief in the country's finances being sorted out by the money tree.

I hope that works out for you.

homelessskilledworker

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Wondering why polling of ordinary voters is telling a different tale to story of confidence the coalition is spinning? Conservatives are at an all-time low in polls since April (29%) They need to be at 40 to even have a whisker of winning. The old saying goes for US election winners 'it's the economy stupid' Do you think it's the same here? Or maybe the NHS as waiting times in A & E have shot back up to 4 hrs due to staff cuts. Either way, Labour's on 14.

Come election day when the voter is stood in his/her booth I just cannot see anyone going for the option of Ed Milliband and Ed Balls. It happened with Neil Kinnock all the time, he was miles ahead at times during the recession of the 80's, but come the crunch the electorate bottled it.

The one saving grace Labour do have is that they have two perceived Tory Toff boys who are now tightening the screws on the least working well off while powerless to tax so many rich who are taking the p**s. Dave and George seem to be using all their powers to protect the false wealth that was gained pre 2007. As someone who welcomed the austerity cuts at first and who knew we were spending like drunken monkeys, I now think Osbourne could well be a one tool wonder with no real talent and vision. I cannot see growth of the type we need coming before well into the 2020's, never mind the 2018 that most are now expecting

The icing on the cake this week had to be Starbucks with an air of charity and the most amazing false sincerity that they had "now decided" to pay a little tax, well yippy ******* do!!

I am going to ring the tax office today and tell them I have decided to pay them £2,100 this year rather than the £21k I have to pay by law.

2010

The public have got short memories.
Two and a half years ago Brown and Labour bankrupted the country but now they are ahead in the polls because the public don`t like the way things are going with Cameron/Clegg.
In two and a half years time they will have forgotten what`s happening now by the wonderful picture the Tories will paint for them in May 2015.

Hard line Labour/Tories will always vote for their parties, it`s just the few undecideds in the middle you have to brainwash.

homelessskilledworker

The one thing I find slightly comforting is with what is happening in the good old USA. There are a lot of people really struggling out there(more than the UK) yet it seems that they are turning their backs on that old fashioned square jawed bible belt bred android Republicians that seemed to have a breeding farm full of them.

It does seem like they are looking for substance these days over a some weird percieved image of an all American hero. Barack Obama is a class act even though he has had to sleep with the devil at times to get where he did(he had to), and with the prospect they will vote in Hillary Clinton into the white house in four years time.

What we need in the UK is something new and different, the parties we now have all came out of the same elitist university media friendly brainwashing pod with no intentions of giving us what we want, but thinking they are clever enough to keep on giving us through the backdoor what they think is better for the us.

The UK is screaming for a REAL leader, more than at anytime in the last 60 years.

BertieUK

2010 wrote: »

The public have got short memories.
Two and a half years ago Brown and Labour bankrupted the country but now they are ahead in the polls because the public don`t like the way things are going with Cameron/Clegg.
In two and a half years time they will have forgotten what`s happening now by the wonderful picture the Tories will paint for them in May 2015.

Hard line Labour/Tories will always vote for their parties, it`s just the few undecideds in the middle you have to brainwash.

And of course this Government is doing everything possible not to waste the taxpayers hard earned cash...

The collapse of the £5bn West Coast Main Line deal will come at "a significant cost to the taxpayer", a National Audit Office report says, this mornings headline.

Just one of the many 'messes' this lot are responsable for, they are showing just how incompitent they are so before you rattle on about others, show some sort of spead sheet that shows that you are not as iresponsible as the last lot.

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

2010 wrote: »

The public have got short memories.
Two and a half years ago Brown and Labour bankrupted the country but now they are ahead in the polls

Indeed they do have short memories. Take your post, you seem to have forgotten that

1)Thatcher and her cronies reduced this country to rubble in the 18 years they were in power - so when the Labour Party won in 1998 we had schools, hospitals and infastucture fit for the Third World.

2)The Tories have been increasing the country's debts for the last 2 and a half years

3)The coalition government is incompetent.

CLAPTON

there are some people who will only vote for their favourite party whatever the circumstances

there are some people who will never vote for a certain party whatever the circumstances

these two types, on the whole tend to be looking back at previous times and perceived successes or loses


there are other people who will be looking to the future and who it likely to do the best for them and their family

there are some that simply think that change is a good thing as the arrogance of power can be considered a bad thing.

at the moment, polls mean very very little as we have two and half years for 'events' to happen

System

CLAPTON wrote: »

there are some people who will only vote for their favourite party whatever the circumstances

There's far too many of these people, makes the whole thing a farce

angrypirate

BertieUK wrote: »

And of course this Government is doing everything possible not to waste the taxpayers hard earned cash...

The collapse of the £5bn West Coast Main Line deal will come at "a significant cost to the taxpayer", a National Audit Office report says, this mornings headline.

Just one of the many 'messes' this lot are responsable for, they are showing just how incompitent they are so before you rattle on about others, show some sort of spead sheet that shows that you are not as iresponsible as the last lot.

This was discussed to death in another thread.

The West Coast Main Line deal was financially assessed by Whitehall civil servants and the mess up was with the base line economic model. This incompetent mess would have happened regardless of who was in power because it was the civil servants who messed up. MPs dont (and cannot be expected to) backcheck every single piece of work done by civil servants.

MacMickster

The problem is that neither party has a credible economic strategy. Both view the economy based upon their political dogma. We are left with a choice between dumb and dumber.

Effectively one party believes in growth. One party believes in wiping out the deficit. Both parties however make getting elected their number one priority.

In order to achieve both growth and eliminate the deficit then actions have to be taken which will make any party unelectable. As, by definition, no party will ever get elected on a ticket to do the things necessary then it must be down to the party in power to do what needs to be done, sacrificing their party and political future for the good of the UK going forward. Sadly this will never happen.