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lighting_up_the_chalice

Morlock wrote: »

No, the whole point of the policy is to reduce housing benefit costs.

And the more efficient use of Social Housing will do just that.

Morlock wrote: »

Your 'Bradford example' proved nothing, except that more people bid on two-bedroom properties than three-bedroom properties in the month of October 2012. Which could in fact be a direct result of the impending bedroom tax.

That would be a valid argument. However, during the same period, the average number of bids for a 1 bed unit in Bradford was 37.1.... Lower than 2 beds, lower than 3 beds. Same source as before.

And remember, YOU chose Bradford as an example.

lighting_up_the_chalice

Heycock wrote: »

Technical question. LHA is based on the bottom 30% of local rents. Does this include the ridiculously lower average social rents for comparable housing? (Which is going to bring the overall average down). In my LA the maximum social rent for ANY property (unless with a service charge) is around £380 month. LHA for 1 bed is £375, for 2 bed £450.
C'mon Morlock..I'm depending on you for the answer on this one.

LHA doesn't take affordable Social Housing rents into account.

nixe

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Even easier then.......

http://www.manchesterhomefinder.org/public/propertydetails.aspx?pid=12377&

http://www.manchesterhomefinder.org/public/propertydetails.aspx?pid=12412&

Both on this weeks bidding cycle.

And, of course, these new rules will mean that you are less likely to be competing against single person households wanting a spare room.... well, not now they might have to pay for it!

i have a 4 bedroomed house, 4 people live in this house
both adults met as teens and healthy.
life changes its life.
house is adapted to accomadate
children help with chores
other daughters live close by, one has a child and lupus
she needs help which if i am able and her siblins try to help out.
my rent is £90 a week.

the govenments way or a solution to this is to
get 2 x2bed houses/flats.
pay 2 sets of rents, seperate the children move from daughter
who needs help. have social services come in as hubby would need allmost 24 hour care. have social in on me as i would need some help through the day.
no idea what that would that cost the tax payer?
all this so that a disabled person with 3 kids could then move in.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nixe wrote: »

i have a 4 bedroomed house, 4 people live in this house
both adults met as teens and healthy.
life changes its life.
house is adapted to accomadate
children help with chores
other daughters live close by, one has a child and lupus
she needs help which if i am able and her siblins try to help out.
my rent is £90 a week.

the govenments way or a solution to this is to
get 2 x2bed houses/flats.
pay 2 sets of rents, seperate the children move from daughter
who needs help. have social services come in as hubby would need allmost 24 hour care. have social in on me as i would need some help through the day.
no idea what that would that cost the tax payer?
all this so that a disabled person with 3 kids could then move in.

I really don't know what you are blathering on about now. How many bedrooms will HB pay for your household when it changes in April?

nannytone_2

uour need is totally irrelebant.

you should gibe way to a 16 year old mother

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

uour [STRIKE]need[/STRIKE] want is totally irrelebant.

you should gibe way to a 16 year old mother

Corrected that for you.

Morlock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Many areas will allow a single person to bid on a 2 bed if, for example, they claim to have child access.

Absolute rubbish. Shared parenting is not taken in to consideration when allocating social housing, there can only be one official parent with care. I challenge you to produce one housing policy in the UK which considers shared care parenting as a reason to award an extra room to an otherwise single person.

Morlock

nannytone wrote: »

uour need is totally irrelebant.

you should gibe way to a 16 year old mother

Come on, nannytone, don't fall for that bigoted nonsense.

mandiskem

im disabled in a wheelchair i have come out of a 3 bedroom house that was adapted for me in west lancs and into a 1 bedroom bungalow in cheshire . the bedroom tax thing states this What do the changes mean?

The size criteria in the social rented sector will restrict housing benefit to allow for one bedroom for each person or couple living as part of the household, with the following exceptions:

Children under 16 of same gender expected to share
Children under 10 expected to share regardless of gender
Disabled tenant or partner who needs non resident overnight carer will be allowed an extra bedroom
Who will be affected?

All claimants who are deemed to have at least one spare bedroom will be affected. This includes:

Separated parents who share the care of their children and who may have been allocated an extra bedroom to reflect this. Benefit rules mean that there must be a designated ‘main carer’ for children (who receives the extra benefit)
Couples who use their ‘spare’ bedroom when recovering from an illness or operation
Foster carers because foster children are not counted as part of the household for benefit purposes
Parents whose children visit but are not part of the household
Families with disabled children
Disabled people including people living in adapted or specially designed properties.


How much will people lose?

The cut will be a fixed percentage of the Housing Benefit eligible rent. The Government has said that this will be set at 14% for one extra bedroom and 25% for two or more extra bedrooms.

The Government’s impact assessment shows that those affected will lose an average of £14 a week. Housing association tenants are expected to lose £16 a week on average.



How many people will see their benefit cut?

The proposal will affect an estimated 660,000 working-age social tenants – 31% of existing working-age housing benefit claimants in the social sector. The majority of these people have only one extra bedroom.

Dunroamin

nixe wrote: »

no i said 2 beds. would need 2x2beds.

Is that the same as 4 beds?