Housing Benefit under occupancy Help

nixe

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I do not know what point you are trying to make. You say there are no 1 bed Social Housing properties near you, and I find them. Then you say it's 2 beds in short supply, so I find them as well. Now it's a 3 bed you want. Well YOU go and find it. It's you who will have to pay an extra few quid for that spare room if you don't.

Seems to me you are trying to gerrymander your household into the most difficult to house shape you can out of sheer bloody-mindedness.

oh dear its you who got this all wrong.

it was you going on about 1 or 2 bed flats.
you saying people should move free up the system
saying i should move to let more diserving cases into my house.
i pointed out why i will not do this and now you have thrown your dummy out the pram.
who wants a 3 bed think you are getting me confused:o

lighting_up_the_chalice

nixe wrote: »

oh dear its you who got this all wrong.

it was you going on about 1 or 2 bed flats.
you saying people should move free up the system
saying i should move to let more diserving cases into my house.
i pointed out why i will not do this and now you have thrown your dummy out the pram.
who wants a 3 bed think you are getting me confused:o

The evidence would suggest that you are perfectly capable of getting confused without anyone's help.

nannytone_2

i gave you my details ... toy gacwbr riks ne wgere u should move to yet

Morlock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

How would you describe it then.....

You stated that in many areas, otherwise single parents without care can bid on two-bedroom properties, they cannot bid because they have no entitlement to a spare room for their child(ren) according to local housing policy.

However, if they live in an area where there is a low rate of under-occupancy, therefore a glut of two-bedroom, social housing properties, they may be fortunate enough to be allocated a two-bedroom property, the same as any other single person. The fact that they have shared-care of children is irrelevant.

It also highlights the fact that under-occupancy of two-bedroom properties is not a problem in areas with the wrong type of housing compared to the demographic of those on the waiting list.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

i gave you my details ... toy gacwbr riks ne wgere u should move to yet

Sorry nanny, but I can't read the second part of your post. If, as I suspect, you are asking after my reply to housing near your location, see my earlier posts.

nixe

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

The evidence would suggest that you are perfectly capable of getting confused without anyone's help.

thats cheap considering i had a stroke 5 weeks ago.
but i never said one beds are hard to find round here
find one quote and i will move tomorrow.
i never said 2 beds are hard to find.
i never mentioned anything about a 3 bed.

i did say i would need 2 x 2 beds and that would affect
2 different families.

mazza111

Morlock wrote: »

Why would a wheelchair user be living in a first floor maisonette?

I actually have a friend who's a wheelchair user living in an upstairs flat atm. She was fine until struck down by HMS after the birth of her child, fit and well up until then. Her husband has to carry her scooter downstairs, then her, then their baby atm. But because of the way the allocations are worked out, they gave her 17 yr old cousin a downstairs flat, because she said her mother was kicking her out. Again this is where the common sense approach should have kicked in. Gave the disabled person the GF property and put the young mum in upstairs.

You mean like all of those who are affected by bedroom tax?

I agree to a certain extent. I do believe in this for larger properties. Just not the smaller.

Morlock wrote: »

Absolute rubbish. Shared parenting is not taken in to consideration when allocating social housing, there can only be one official parent with care. I challenge you to produce one housing policy in the UK which considers shared care parenting as a reason to award an extra room to an otherwise single person.

Actually, my x husband was allocated a 2 bedroom flat. I had to write him a letter stating that he was having the children at least 2 nights a week, which he was, so had no problems doing this. They actually offered him a 3 bedroom at the time, but it was in such a state he asked for the smaller of the 2 flats. I don't know how this works in other areas, or if this has changed in recent years. I'm going back about 10+ years.


So all in all I don't know what the answers are, again, I do believe in it to free up larger properties, but where there is none, I absolutely don't believe in it

lighting_up_the_chalice

Morlock wrote: »

You stated that in many areas, otherwise single parents without care can bid on two-bedroom properties, they cannot bid because they have no entitlement to a spare room for their child(ren) according to local housing policy.

However, if they live in an area where there is a low rate of under-occupancy, therefore a glut of two-bedroom, social housing properties, they may be fortunate enough to be allocated a two-bedroom property, the same as any other single person. The fact that they have shared-care of children is irrelevant.

A single person can (and many do) bid on 2 bed properties. I even gave you links to some 2 beds that are available for single people to bid on this week. Very few allocation policies (in fact, I know of none) will specify who can bid for what in terms of property size.

Morlock wrote: »

It also highlights the fact that under-occupancy of two-bedroom properties is not a problem in areas with the wrong type of housing compared to the demographic of those on the waiting list.

If that is an issue, it will soon be addressed by the bedroom tax. Glad to see you coming round to the idea.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nixe wrote: »

thats cheap considering i had a stroke 5 weeks ago.
but i never said one beds are hard to find round here
find one quote and i will move tomorrow.
i never said 2 beds are hard to find.
i never mentioned anything about a 3 bed.

i did say i would need 2 x 2 beds and that would affect
2 different families.

Sorry to hear about you recent health issues. Maybe it's time you had a rest, huh?

lighting_up_the_chalice

mazza111 wrote: »

I agree to a certain extent. I do believe in this for larger properties. Just not the smaller.

If people under-occupying 2 beds don't move, there will be less availability for the underoccupiers of 3 beds (and serious underoccupiers of 4 beds) to move to. If underoccupiers of 3 beds don't move, there will be less availability for the underoccupiers of 4 beds (and serious underoccupiers of 5 beds) to move to... and so on.