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Housing Benefit under occupancy Help

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  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    i wasnt married to him. so despite the fact that the support i gave meant he was financially secure, there was nothing i could do... everything was in his name. you live and learn.

    i have no choice at all with regards to the position i am in.

    maybe i should sue my parents for giving me the genetic condition that had robbed me of my sught?

    as previously ... i have no choice in my disability ... but im expected to suffer for the decisions of people that do have choice.
  • nannytone wrote: »
    i wasnt married to him. so despite the fact that the support i gave meant he was financially secure, there was nothing i could do... everything was in his name. you live and learn.

    i have no choice at all with regards to the position i am in.

    maybe i should sue my parents for giving me the genetic condition that had robbed me of my sught?

    as previously ... i have no choice in my disability ... but im expected to suffer for the decisions of people that do have choice.

    You said it was your choice.....
    nannytone wrote: »

    the fact that i was silly enough not to fleece my ex has meant that i now need help.

    As for your choices regarding your housing, I'm sure there are options available if you cannot/will not afford your empty bedroom while other disabled families languish on the waiting list. If you tell me your area, I'm sure I could point you in the right direction.
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    the only 1 bed private rental in my area has come up for let at least 6 times in the past year. this suggests there is a real issue with either the property itself or the area that its in.

    as someone with a disability i am very reluctant to give up a secure tenancy to be thrown into a nightmare.

    also the fact that i would have to top up this property to a greater extenst than the reduction in housing benefit ....

    as ive previously said .... i have no choice.

    hindsight is a wonderful thing ... but my genetic condition didnt become apparant until a few years aho as it is a recessive gene ... no one else has it.

    wht should i apologise for som,ething i have no control over?
  • Morlock
    Morlock Posts: 3,265 Forumite
    In doing so, you would free up a bigger property for a family on the waiting list who are claiming LHA. The cost to the taxpayer may be higher for your family, but overall there are savings to be made if Social Housing stock is used more efficiently.

    The problem with this theory is that a family who are already housed and claiming LHA are very unlikely to ever be offered a social housing property. The fact that they are already living somewhere puts them way down the list in order of priority.
  • nannytone wrote: »
    the only 1 bed private rental in my area has come up for let at least 6 times in the past year. this suggests there is a real issue with either the property itself or the area that its in.

    as someone with a disability i am very reluctant to give up a secure tenancy to be thrown into a nightmare.

    also the fact that i would have to top up this property to a greater extenst than the reduction in housing benefit ....

    as ive previously said .... i have no choice.

    hindsight is a wonderful thing ... but my genetic condition didnt become apparant until a few years aho as it is a recessive gene ... no one else has it.

    wht should i apologise for som,ething i have no control over?

    No-one is asking for you to apologise. I'm just suggesting you do something with the options available to you. Again, regarding your housing choices, I'm sure there are options available if you cannot/will not afford your empty bedroom while other disabled families languish on the waiting list. If you tell me your area, I'm sure I could point you in the right direction.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    and the greater part of that 40% are either pensioners that arent affected or disabled people that giving up their only security is a complete no go.

    so instead they will have to pay up and suffer as a result. as if they dont have enough suffering in their lives already!

    surely the most reasonable response is to build more social housing, rather than make one vulnerable group suffer for the sake of another?

    I am very much in favour of a large programme of building social housing but this cannot be the only solution. We also need to look at getting away from the housing for life model for many people and utilise the housing we have better.

    I have already said that I think that current changes should be relaxed for the most disabled and I think that pensioners (apart from the very old) should come under the new regime.
  • Morlock wrote: »
    The problem with this theory is that a family who are already housed and claiming LHA are very unlikely to ever be offered a social housing property. The fact that they are already living somewhere puts them way down the list in order of priority.

    Oh, so it's OK to leave those in housing NEED on the waiting list then? Whatever way you look at it, downsizing will free up capacity in Social Housing, which will relieve pressure on the waiting list and provide the opportunity of secure accommodation to those in housing need.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Morlock wrote: »
    The problem with this theory is that a family who are already housed and claiming LHA are very unlikely to ever be offered a social housing property. The fact that they are already living somewhere puts them way down the list in order of priority.

    That only indicates how the whole policy of allocating social housing should be looked at and reformed.
  • Morlock
    Morlock Posts: 3,265 Forumite
    I remind of 2 things...

    40% under-occupancy in Social Housing.

    81% of those under-occupying by one bedroom and the majority being single people, so mostly two-bedroom properties.
    1.8 million on the waiting list for Social Housing.

    A huge percentage of those requiring bigger properties than two-bedrooms, the majority of which are not being freed up by bedroom tax, so will make very little difference to numbers on the waiting list.
  • Morlock wrote: »
    81% of those under-occupying by one bedroom and the majority being single people, so mostly two-bedroom properties.

    The exact property type for which there is highest demand... Remember Bradford?
    Morlock wrote: »
    A huge percentage of those requiring bigger properties than two-bedrooms, the majority of which are not being freed up by bedroom tax, so will make very little difference to numbers on the waiting list.

    I'm sure you will have some statistics to support that claim about low demand for 2 bed Social Housing.... perhaps you could share it?
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