Universal Job Match at http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk

csmw

john539 wrote: »

If there's nothing to hide any JC Advisor, the Jobcentre, DWP should be able to confirm exactly what they can see with & without customer permission on someone's account.

There is nothing to hide and I'm sure if you asked your advisor they would show you but obviously they can only do that if you register and give them permission

menos

old-muggins-here wrote: »

searching google for "ineed" hacked or "reed hacked" brings up no results that relate to these recruitment websites.

that's my concern, if it had been built by "indeed or reed" I wouldn't have so much of a problem, but having been built by "monster"....

wait a minute:think:, I think that's an invalid conclusion you're coming to, there. if Google ( an internet search engine ) did not have news of a system's vulnerability (an article of it (Indeed or Reed) being hacked) it does not mean it is unhackable.

if that's your only concern than if JC-Gov releases, say, a news article tomorrow and it says "the system's server security is NOT like monster's and it is NOT like Read's, it is a new, unique and powerful combination" than your opinion will be switched.

hackers, Anonymous and `Masters of Deception` ( of the most dangerous groups ) did not stay away from "ineed or reed" because they were hosted in secure servers but more likely because they did not see there is much for them to steal.
I mean Anonymous was able to intercept top secret gov communication links and not be able to see what the port channels are carrying from and to indeed or reed servers?.
not an exaggeration but a hard technological fact that simply says "nothing is 100% secure".

the concerning thing is more to do with the dodgy marketing firms like Frankie Glam mentioned in his blog.
they will be legally taking the data and start using it how they wish. an example of it can be seen in the financial market where the short-term loan lenders started abusing the rule of "continuous payment authorities" and loan brokers (in this case could be agencies) re-selling applicants data.

"if it ain't broke, don't fix it" I think it seemed broke to them (not technically but objectively). because it was no longer being affective tool to monitor who is the lazy-benefit-taker jobseeker and who is the legitimate jobseeker. isn't it we can tell by seeing the objectives of the Universal Jobmatch?.

STAVROS

Here is another reason not to give permission for you UJ account to be monitored by the JCP.
Your activity ( Jobsearch) will be monitored and if there is a break in your usual pattern your Benefit could be stopped.
If you go away for Xmas for instance without getting written permission from the JCP then your Benefit will be stopped for 4 weeks.

csmw

STAVROS wrote: »

Here is another reason not to give permission for you UJ account to be monitored by the JCP.
Your activity ( Jobsearch) will be monitored and if there is a break in your usual pattern your Benefit could be stopped.
If you go away for Xmas for instance without getting written permission from the JCP then your Benefit will be stopped for 4 weeks.

Where did you get that nonsense from???? You already have to fill in a holiday form no change there

Dmuggy1

I had a jobcentre interview today where i was asked if i would sign up for the job matching service. I said that i had been reading on the internet about it and had concerns regarding data protection and would prefer not to. The advisor was surprised to hear that there were concerns but said that she was happy for me not to sign up. I said that i would prefer to wait to see how the issue 'pans out' and that i expect there to be challenges to the system in the future. So as yet it is not mandatory, and i advise anyone with concerns to avoid signing up for now.

john539

csmw wrote: »

Where did you get that nonsense from???? You already have to fill in a holiday form no change there

He's saying people's Account Activity is being monitored, when they login & logoff, how long they stay on, what they do, jobs viewed etc.

Is this correct, can advisors view Account Activity without permission or only with permission ?

Gaz1971

I have just spoken to JCP on the phone and Ill try and explain it.

All you are required to do is show JCP that you are registered with a Gateway ID and therefore have access to the new website. If you are not registered, you wont be able to apply for jobs on the site and will be deemed to not be making enough effort to find work.

Its basically seen as a basic minimum requirement that you are at least registered to use the Govt own website to search for jobs,any other sites used are a bonus.

You can sign up and refuse them access, the option is there. They just need to know you are signed up and have access to the site.

wancandan

Under the DATA PROTECTION ACT, a person CANNOT…I REPEAT CANNOT be compelled to give permission to a third party to access their private data. F##k me, even THE POLICE must first seek permission to mount any kind of surveillance upon an individual. I don’t know who da fuq IDS thinks he !!!!ing is. The Data Protection Act is the !!!!ing LAW. It is NOT up for debate or ‘interpretation’.

Buellguy

Gaz1971 wrote: »

I have just spoken to JCP on the phone and Ill try and explain it.

All you are required to do is show JCP that you are registered with a Gateway ID and therefore have access to the new website. If you are not registered, you wont be able to apply for jobs on the site and will be deemed to not be making enough effort to find work.

Its basically seen as a basic minimum requirement that you are at least registered to use the Govt own website to search for jobs,any other sites used are a bonus.

You can sign up and refuse them access, the option is there. They just need to know you are signed up and have access to the site.

Sounds pretty fair to me

MissSarah1972

Gaz1971 wrote: »

I have just spoken to JCP on the phone and Ill try and explain it.

All you are required to do is show JCP that you are registered with a Gateway ID and therefore have access to the new website. If you are not registered, you wont be able to apply for jobs on the site and will be deemed to not be making enough effort to find work.

Its basically seen as a basic minimum requirement that you are at least registered to use the Govt own website to search for jobs,any other sites used are a bonus.

You can sign up and refuse them access, the option is there. They just need to know you are signed up and have access to the site.

You can apply for jobs as I can see jobs there with email addresses for your to send CV's and cover letters to.