Universal Job Match at http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk

john539

1940sGal wrote: »

Their job searching history, obviously, since they're the job centre.

And he's clearly said it's only if you give them your permission and will only make it mandatory if they think you're not doing all you should be.

It depends how the system is configured.

There is an Application History & Activity History on the website.

He said needs permission to view Application History, can login to view Customer History.

Not sure if all this needs customer permission or only part.

That's why I ask exactly.
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1940sGal

old-muggins-here wrote: »

unless I'm mistaken there's one problem with the statement above...

if you do register but you DO NOT give them permission, your CV and other data will still be online through a system developed by Monster.

If what I've read turns out to be correct. When the universal credit comes into power in April people under this new regime will then have all their details online too.

ask yourself... you have over 1million people claiming JSA. you then have masses (don't know any figures) that are on other kinds of benefits that are also online, would this not make a hackers dream? all that personal information readily available.....

I have to agree though.. for your long term claimant of jobseekers then yes they should be strongly advised to register (but there's still a concern over privacy) like I said, even if you choose not to let the JCP or DWP monitor your account, you account is still on a server which could be hacked....

This is why I'm torn. I can see why people are unsure of it and are not keen to give up their details, but on the other hand if it helps weed out the bad apples I'm all for it.

From another PoV, if people are already registered on other sites such as Indeed and Reed etc (as many here have said they've done) then they've already posted their details online anyway so any cries of privacy over this seem a bit futile.

1940sGal

john539 wrote: »

It depends how the system is configured.

There is an Application History & Activity History on the website.

He said needs permission to view Application History, can login to view Customer History.

Not sure if all this needs customer permission or only part.

That's why I ask exactly.
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Fair do's. Sorry for being snappy. I just look at people getting uppity at the possibility of the job centre looking at their entire internet history and it all seems completely absurd and impossibly ridiculous that they'd even suggest it.

john539

If there's nothing to hide any JC Advisor, the Jobcentre, DWP should be able to confirm exactly what they can see with & without customer permission on someone's account.

MissSarah1972

1940sGal wrote: »

This is why I'm torn. I can see why people are unsure of it and are not keen to give up their details, but on the other hand if it helps weed out the bad apples I'm all for it.

From another PoV, if people are already registered on other sites such as Indeed and Reed etc (as many here have said they've done) then they've already posted their details online anyway so any cries of privacy over this seem a bit futile.

People who work for Indeed and Reed are not logging in looking at their cv and applications are they? Plus all sites you sign up to at your own risk or own choice.

old-muggins-here

1940sGal wrote: »

This is why I'm torn. I can see why people are unsure of it and are not keen to give up their details, but on the other hand if it helps weed out the bad apples I'm all for it.

From another PoV, if people are already registered on other sites such as Indeed and Reed etc (as many here have said they've done) then they've already posted their details online anyway so any cries of privacy over this seem a bit futile.

That's ok, the other recruitment websites such as ineed,reed,total jobs etc haven't been globally recognized for having been successfully hacked numerous times. Searching google for "monster hacked" will bring up a colourful array of websites reporting that monster.com and monster.co.uk have been hacked.

searching google for "ineed" hacked or "reed hacked" brings up no results that relate to these recruitment websites.

that's my concern, if it had been built by "ineed or reed" I wouldn't have so much of a problem, but having been built by "monster"....

old-muggins-here

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

People who work for Indeed and Reed are not logging in looking at their cv and applications are they? Plus all sites you sign up to at your own risk or own choice.

thats it! the administrators and users of other employment brokerage sites (recruitment sites) aren't watching your every move. Nobody forces you to sign up to them either.

there's so many question's left un-answered... so many privacy concerns.. "how the hell it ever got past privacy approval I don't know...

it's also very worrying when they have been found to be changing statements made on the gov.uk website about the new setup too...


mass confusion all over the country... problems with the site (ideally... seeing how so many people used the previous website daily) would testing the new UJ not be a good idea? there's too many people all over the country showing concerns over privacy. The strange thing I can't understand is "why are some of the servers hosting from outside the UK (u.s) actually.. seeing how Monster is an american site.... if the DWP wanted a setup like monster surely they could have created a new site (or written it on the back of the old one) without having to have it related to the U.S in anyway.. this is Britain.. not america!

kitschkitty

If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to lose.

If you believe that you'll believe anything.

A sign up figure of 8 out of 10 claimants is also a joke, the number of illiterate claimants, and computer illiterate claimants is higher than that in the first place. Add onto that those who have to access the internet via a library or jobcentre's etc - where there simply won't be the staff resources necessary or available to assist them in using the system - it's a farce.

As for data security and data sharing, I wouldn't trust a 3rd party website for the level of information being requested, the only time I used a government website (some years ago) - it was the tax credits one or something - can't remember now - I had my identity stolen - it was quite big news at the time - as it was apparently so easily hacked and a lot of people had their personal information stolen.

Gaz1971

So can anyone confirm for me, is this compulsory in order to receive benefits or is it as I see it, completely optional?

old-muggins-here

kitschkitty wrote: »

If you believe that you'll believe anything.

A sign up figure of 8 out of 10 claimants is also a joke, the number of illiterate claimants, and computer illiterate claimants is higher than that in the first place. Add onto that those who have to access the internet via a library or jobcentre's etc - where there simply won't be the staff resources necessary or available to assist them in using the system - it's a farce.

As for data security and data sharing, I wouldn't trust a 3rd party website for the level of information being requested, the only time I used a government website (some years ago) - it was the tax credits one or something - can't remember now - I had my identity stolen - it was quite big news at the time - as it was apparently so easily hacked and a lot of people had their personal information stolen.

Thank you!!

not everyone has an Iphone... not everyone has a mobile that can go on the net (let alone afford the cost while out of work!)..

not everyone has access to a computer or broadband.. not everybody is computer literate enough to take the advantages of the website. (what about people who live in rural area's where they only have access to "pay as you go" internet access? can't see the JC paying for that.

My mum had her CV and details on the Monster.co.uk website only a year or two ago. As soon as she could she removed all details and removed her account.