Universal Job Match at http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk

Daedalus

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Unless you are homless and have no benefits there is no excuse!

I dont steal and I have gone without food.

and besides I do not think andy2004 was talking about stealing bread!

He was talking about sanctioning people to the point that they have no 'choice' but to turn to crime to survive. It is valid and accepted point. Crime is not black and white, it is not always the case of everyone who commits crime is inherently evil and can never be anything but a criminal.

MissSarah1972

Gaz1971 wrote: »

From the mouth of a JC adviser I spoke to earlier, if you are not registered to use their site you are not making enough effort to look for work,a basic JSA requirement, to prove you are actively seeking employment.

So you signed a new job seekers agreement to say you agree to this?

MissSarah1972

Daedalus wrote: »

He was talking about sanctioning people to the point that they have no 'choice' but to turn to crime to survive. It is valid and accepted point. Crime is not black and white, it is not always the case of everyone who commits crime is inherently evil and can never be anything but a criminal.

Why would they sanction you? I haven't been and nor has my mate who has been out of work longer than me.

What can you do so wrong to be taken off benefits for so long if you are really looking for a job.

donnajunkie

Gaz1971 wrote: »

You cannot use all the features of the site unless you register, if you are not registered, you will be deemed to not be doing all that you can to find work and your benefits will be stopped.

until they force me to register i wont be. i dont trust them. when the day comes i will just apply for everything it matches me with. you cant risk not doing so incase they try to sanction you.
i strongly advise anyone who doesnt like the idea of useing this site to reply with the word no if they ask if you have access to the net.

Gaz1971

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

So you signed a new job seekers agreement to say you agree to this?

You dont need to, the old one states you have to make an effort to look for work and if they think you are not, they stop your money.

You will no doubt !!!!!, moan, argue and disagree, but at the end of the day, if you want benefits, you do what they say or get nothing.

Gaz1971

donnajunkie wrote: »

until they force me to register i wont be. i dont trust them. when the day comes i will just apply for everything it matches me with. you cant risk not doing so incase they try to sanction you.
i strongly advise anyone who doesnt like the idea of useing this site to reply with the word no if they ask if you have access to the net.

They will tell you to use your local library to access the internet.

MissSarah1972

Gaz1971 wrote: »

You dont need to, the old one states you have to make an effort to look for work and if they think you are not, they stop your money.

You will no doubt !!!!!, moan, argue and disagree, but at the end of the day, if you want benefits, you do what they say or get nothing.

No they do have to as mine just says to LOOK on Job seekers direct once a week. If the system has changed and it has they have to update the job seekers agreement as its a change to what they want you to do.

I am doing what it says (and a lot more) on the js agreement.

Gaz1971

Well good luck with that argument at your JCP:rotfl:

donnajunkie

Gaz1971 wrote: »

You dont need to, the old one states you have to make an effort to look for work and if they think you are not, they stop your money.

You will no doubt !!!!!, moan, argue and disagree, but at the end of the day, if you want benefits, you do what they say or get nothing.

i certainly wouldnt be surprised if they count a job match to your cv as a referal. i can certainly see them questioning you why if you dont apply for a job that is matched to you. there is a box with the option to reject jobs and you can select good reasons why. the problem is the jobcentre isnt staffed by reasonable people.

MissSarah1972

Gaz1971 wrote: »

Well good luck with that argument at your JCP:rotfl:

I have not been told about no new site and probably wont be.

But yeah I will ask about the ja agreement.

Everything should be in writing and you sign to agree it even like when they hand you a letter about xmas signings or whatever they get you to sign for it. Why is this so different?