Blasted Employers Snubbing Long Term Jobless People!

DCFC79

Truegho wrote: »

I've applied! Am waiting for work back.

Well good luck but dont let the ball stop there, keep it going.

bargainbetty

I have also been for jobs when they require three years of employment history. It is not the fault of the agency if they cannot put you forward because that is what the recruiting firm has specified. It is also not the fault of the recruiting firm if specific roles require this level of background checks - you do not know why this happens, and slagging them off on a public forum isn't helpful.

I've been out of work, I understand the frustrations. I went after targeted roles and managed to find something in six months. I was lucky, but I made my own luck.

With regard to your training ideas, Sage payroll really requires a working knowledge of basic Sage as well (its helpful to know the simpler functions). Do you have any experience in payroll departments? If you don't, then consider a more varied course. Payroll restricts you to HR or very limited accounts functions, and there are also a lot of HR people out there looking for work. They have experience - you won't get a foot in the door.

Go walking with a bundle of CVs. Ask if you can drop them in at offices, volunteer shops, the council, Tesco, wherever. Be proactive and get out there. You will feel better about yourself just for being in a job, whatever it is. Go into a supermarket and aim to get on the back office/admin training programmes if you don't want to stack shelves, but look at every opportunity laterally.

And honestly, as a recruiter now, if even one iota of that attitude came over at interview with me, you'd be out of the door with a firm handshake and a letter in the post politely wishing you luck elsewhere. You cannot allow the bitterness to eat you up to a point where it comes across in your personality and presentation. I am sure you are professional in your outlook, but these things do creep in over time, and you might not see it until it costs you a job.

I wish you lots of luck, and fortune favours the brave.

Sambucus_Nigra

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Becuase they:
Have had too many people apply and can not read them all.
OR
Do not have to read them all.

You are just making assumptions.

Employers have a grid with all the 'essentials' and 'desireables' listed, and those that show they meet them on the application form/CV get shoved to the top of the list. It's then that they get sorted and the top few get interviews.

It's your job to get to the top of that list.

MissSarah1972

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

You are just making assumptions.

Employers have a grid with all the 'essentials' and 'desireables' listed, and those that show they meet them on the application form/CV get shoved to the top of the list. It's then that they get sorted and the top few get interviews.

It's your job to get to the top of that list.

A grid? What's that?

No I have it in writing from a few that they had to stop reading as they had too many applications or they just never read them all. Even my last company advertised and only read the first 100 (out of 300+) as they couldn't go on for weeks doing so. Yes read them with the cover letters and even chucked some put like a bloke who was an accountant applying for a junior role.

MissSarah1972

Oh yes and I have read receipts where they say

'Your message

To: AXXXX WXXXX

Cc:

Subject: RE: Your application with XXXXX XXXX

Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:13:37 -0000

was deleted without being read on Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:13:32 -0000'


Easy to hit the delete button a bit harder to open the email and read the CV

Sambucus_Nigra

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Oh yes and I have read receipts where they say

'Your message

To: AXXXX WXXXX

Cc:

Subject: RE: Your application with XXXXX XXXX

Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:13:37 -0000

was deleted without being read on Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:13:32 -0000'


Easy to hit the delete button a bit harder to open the email and read the CV

You sound proud of that!

It's your job to get in early and get to the top of the grid.

MissSarah1972

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

You sound proud of that!

It's your job to get in early and get to the top of the grid.

I sent it as soon as the job hit the internet actually hence me being on my laptop from 8am to 2am every day. Like I say you can not make anyone read the application. Still do not have a clue what this 'grid' is.
Like this job
http://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/purchase-ledger-assistant/22240333

I am the 20th person to apply. Will they read the 20 so far? What happens when they get 300? Yeah they will read them all, NOT!

Sambucus_Nigra

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

I sent it as soon as the job hit the internet actually hence me being on my laptop from 8am to 2am every day. Like I say you can not make anyone read the application. Still do not have a clue what this 'grid' is.

You don't know what a grid is?

MissSarah1972

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

You don't know what a grid is?

No idea what it is when you are recruiting.

miduck

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Oh yes and I have read receipts where they say

'Your message

To: AXXXX WXXXX

Cc:

Subject: RE: Your application with XXXXX XXXX

Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:13:37 -0000

was deleted without being read on Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:13:32 -0000'


Easy to hit the delete button a bit harder to open the email and read the CV

That means nothing - you can open an attachment without "reading" the email.